Tell me about sumo springs

Didn't give a reason, just a statement as follows:

Hello John for your vehicle I would go with the SSR-612-40 https://www.supersprings.com/application-guide/SSR-612-40 as this can provide the support you are looking for and will not impact how the truck can drive when you are unloaded as well

Care to share what your towing/hauling and why you added them to your truck?

 

My 2019 trd sport has an ARE fiberglass topper. Throw in my family of 4 with camping gear and coolers. Hook up my 18ft fiberglass I/O boat. There’s some weight. Afraid to even guess

 

Replied to the email from SumoSprings and asked about the reasoning -40 vs -47. Here's my question and the reply. Sounds like what @Hammerma experienced.

Me: With the

$275 SSR-612-40 | SumoSprings Rear for Toyota Tacoma, blue

SSR-612-40 being the 500lb rated model, is that 500lbs each side? If I plan to add 500lbs of gear in the truck, as well as the 212+lbs of tongue weight, then I can see that model being sufficient. If it's a total of 500lbs for the pair, it would seem to me that the

$285 SSR-612-47 | SumoSprings Rear for Toyota Tacoma, Black

SSR-612-47 model would be the better choice.

SS response: Adding that weight the blue can still be good and the SSR-612-47 is a good choice as well. IF you like to go black it can help but when the truck is unloaded the SSR-612-47 can cause the ride too become harsh and or stiffer then how it felt prior to the product being on the vehicle it is up to driver comfort SSR-612-40 can support the weight you asking and not impact how the truck drives unloaded while SSR-612-47 can still offer the support but may not enjoy how the truck feels empty.

 

I think if you’re always carrying 500 lbs in the bed the 1,000lb spring might be ok
But if you’re normal load is 100-300 lbs probably 500lb springs are a better option

 

I have the 610-40 on order. How much torque are you putting on the U-bolts when tightening these down?

2nd gen but the discussion seemed to good to pass by, thanks all for the information.

 

Hi all,

Just reading through and thinking about using Sumo's on my 2020 Tacoma SX 4X4. Plan is to get a hitch carrier to haul my KTM 500exc around. Bike weight is probably in the 240-250 pound range. But using a carrier moves the weight so far behind the rear springs that I expect an increase in the moment arm and an increase the amount of force compared to just loading the bike in the bed. So, should I use the 500 or 1000 pound variety?

Any suggestions much appreciated.

 

Now this makes the decision even harder. Contacted etrailer.com about the SumoSprings and they took longer to reply. They suggest the

$285 SSR-612-47 | SumoSprings Rear for Toyota Tacoma, Black

SSR-612-47 if Sumosprings, but recommend the Roadmaster Active Suspension @Mike G posted previously.

 

The sumo-springs are an inexpensive investment and dead simple. If, in the off-chance, you decide they do not resolve your hauling issues you can most likely sell them and recover a portion of their cost.

You'll see many users here on Tacomaworld with sumo-springs and ride-rite airbags and you'll waay fewer users with the active suspension proposed. I easily hauled / towed more weight than what you describe (before modifying my truck) and all I experienced was a bit of squat in the rear of the truck... that being said I believe the sumo-springs will help you and will not negatively impact your comfort when the truck is unloaded. my $0.02 and worth what you paid.

As for the 1000 lb sumo springs vs the 500 lb.. the company all but admitted that the 1000 lb springs will negatively affect your ride when the truck is empty. eTrailer isn't considering that scenario apparently.

 

Thanks, I'm still leaning towards purchasing the 500lb SumoSprings based on the suggestion directly from them.

 

I admit that I'm very interested in trying the Roadmaster Active Suspension to help with axle wrap under hard acceleration and possibly reducing body roll when throwing the truck into corners/off-ramps but I don't have experience with them. I personally won't expect them to solve my issues of hauling extra weight as I have air-bags (a sumo spring alternative) to resolve that issue.

 

I guess something will be better than nothing.

 

Just a FYI. The last few weeks of -10 to -20F the truck rides pretty stiff. 500lb sumos

 

Don't recall ever experiencing those temps here in NJ. Single digits above 0F is about as low as it goes here. Will be ordering soon.

After doing some more investigation, I'm pretty sure this '16 Tacoma had air bags on it. I purchased it in Jan '19 and recall seeing some Firestone branded fittings on the rear bumper when looking at it. When I went back to do the deal, they were gone. Didn't think anything of, but there are 2 holes in the plastic trim next to the license plate. After watching a video for installing Firestone air bags and the dude used a Sawzall to remove the bump stops, it all clicked.

 

what is the torque spec for the U bolts, for reassembly? thanks in advance.

 

A search turned up this: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/u-bolt-torque-specs.575430/

 

Nevermind .... found on another thread: U bolt torque is 52 LBs... i'll run with that.

 

We recently did an ICON Stage 2 lift (comes with an add a leaf) but we still level and bottom out something terrible when running the bed bars, rock sliders, rear diff skid plate, roof top tent, 5 gallons of reserve fuel, 20 gallons of water, camping gear, dometic fridge, etc..etc.. blah blah. Truck gets heavy. Soooo... The add a leaf helped, but did NOT resolve the issue. We just ordered the 1000lbs Sumo Spring. Installing tonight and will give it a go. We decided the 1000lbs would be the right choice as we're going to be doing a high clearance swingout bumper eventually and that's even more weight.

 

After reading through 4 pages of a revived thread, we're not talking about a resort area in Arizona?

 

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Not my pic but I have this installed on my taco. I have about a 1.5-2” lift in the rear. I have the bilstein 5160s along with a deaver aal. This came with the 6112/5160 lift kit that I installed. I have the OEM bump stop of course and bought a sumospring to replace it.

I have the 612-40s, so the blue ones. Would you guys recommend removing this piece? Or leave it with the sumospring installed.

Im waiting on the front sumo springs to come in. Looking forward to installing that as well.

 

Is the frame different in the rear between 2nd and 3rd gens? Is that why 610 for 2nd gen is 1" taller than 612 for 3rd gen?