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3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by crashnburn80, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Feb 26, 2021 at 9:24 AM
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    Tacoflacco

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    thanks brother! im pretty close to scrapping the upgrade and just keep the white lights led. ill give it a few tries but thats always on the table for sure. good lookin out!
     
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  2. Feb 26, 2021 at 10:19 AM
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    Why not just test them one by one? You don't have to rip apart everything. Be patient in your debugging.
     
  3. Feb 26, 2021 at 10:35 AM
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    I don't see how that is an excuse to ignore them.
     
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  4. Feb 26, 2021 at 10:40 AM
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    Not so much about rules, more about common sense. Post a question, wait for a response.
     
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  5. Feb 26, 2021 at 10:41 AM
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    Third gens require a certain amount of resistance. I don't recall what it is but my buddy had a similar issue that you have. He ended up talking with VLEDs and they got him squared away. Although that was using VLEDs bulbs as well. I believe some JDMAstar LED bulbs have built in resistors to "eliminate" hyper flash, but that does not always work.
     
  6. Feb 26, 2021 at 10:46 AM
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    sandiegohasthebesttacos

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    i had those jdma led's in my turn signal and couldn't get rid of the hyperflash with the headlights on. with the headlights off they were fine (sometimes). just got rid of them. not worth it.
     
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  7. Feb 26, 2021 at 10:57 AM
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    I would just buy quality bulbs from the start and you won't have headaches down the road. If you stick with Diode Dynamics or VLEDS you will have high quality LEDs and customer service that backs up their products.
     
  8. Feb 27, 2021 at 8:05 PM
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    Taco_Coma

    Taco_Coma That's a lovely accent you have. New Jersey?

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    The Nokya harness isn't available anymore, any other recommendations?
    This review on Amazon is steering me away from the iJDMtoy harness https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-...ef=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00TXRWOPA
     
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  9. Feb 27, 2021 at 8:17 PM
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    If I could source the connectors and pins I could probably make these now that I have the tools and adequate experience. Might be nice to have something as short as possible.

    I’ll do a little hunting.
     
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  10. Feb 27, 2021 at 8:23 PM
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    Taco_Coma That's a lovely accent you have. New Jersey?

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    Awesome let me know!
     
  11. Feb 27, 2021 at 10:18 PM
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    I think I have a few H11 sockets in my drawer from when I added extensions to mine for tapping for a relay signal. I think I got them in a 10 pack on eBay. There are probably higher quality ones out there though. I'll find the listing tomorrow.
     
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  12. Feb 27, 2021 at 11:20 PM
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    Hey @crashnburn80 are you actually going to review the new Morimotos? I know you are on to the Jeep platform. Just curious if it’s actually going to happen. Been holding off on buying a set pending your results! Thanks for all of your research and time dedicated to this platform.
     
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  13. Feb 28, 2021 at 6:33 AM
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    I consulted a bit with @Puppypunter and ordered a small set of terminals and some male connectors he thinks are ok. Trying to find some females.

    If anyone wants my Nokya harness I can resell it for $20. IIRC, it keeps the same reversed polarity which doesn’t matter for halogen bulbs.
    ^^ sold.

    I’ll see if I can build a very short pigtail which also reverses the polarity.

    Most of the connectors out there are cheap with complaints of loose fit. It would be awesome to locate a source for the OEM H9 female Toyota uses. So far I haven’t found it. I might also try some ceramic options. None of them look all that great to me though.

    I think I have some un-modded H9’s I can test fit with so that part is easy.
     
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    I hope these 9011’s live up to the hype. I picked up a set of korean osram’s locally to replace my auxito led’s. Pulling out of the garage they look dimmer so im crossing my fingers.
     
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    @crashnburn80 , I'm considering upgrading to the OEM LED assemblies based on your test results in a Tacoma I have on order. I couldn't find an intensity-versus-distance plot of OEM LEDs versus the GE +130 (I may have missed it) It did seem the OEM LEDs are noticeably better than even the H9 upgrade, but your comment about snowy climates gives me pause.

    We get snow and ice every winter, not a lot of accumulation, but frequently. Typically I start the engine, flip the lights and rear defrost on, and let them melt ice while I scrape my windows. Within a few minutes I can gently wipe the lights clear and drive off.

    Will this not work anymore with the LEDs? I don't want to be scraping them or dumping washer fluid trying to melt ice.
     
  16. Mar 2, 2021 at 1:34 PM
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    I’ve wondered about this myself? Driving at night when it’s snowing and headlights not generating any heat to melt the accumulating snow and ice... hmmmm
     
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    Graphy graphertons below: ***

    upload_2021-3-2_14-42-1.jpg
    upload_2021-3-2_14-42-18.jpg

    TLDR from this is, buy 2nd gen :)

    As to snow melt, I have yet to get within 100 miles of snow with my truck so I have nothing helpful to add there yet.

    *** LED measurements are either taken from measurements made at 18' or interpolated from measurements made at 42' to 18' (I believe for the Hikari's specifically). Crash has explained how LED light output should be measured at distance, his practical limit is 42'. Diode Dynamics has a 50' test environment which is even better. The bottom line, though, is that for LED measurements, 18' is insufficient and does not tell the full story. However, I don't believe crash has halogen measurements at 42' so there isn't any better way to compare everything all one one graph than using the 18' numbers. Also note that the Headlight Revolution GTR is not recommended (for reasons why read the first few posts) meanwhile the Morimoto 2stroke 3.0 is recommended (again please read the first few posts). So, while this graph is not meant to be misleading, it has some misleading characteristics. Still, it is somewhat helpful to see everything mixed together in one big pot.
     
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  18. Mar 2, 2021 at 3:11 PM
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