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ecgs bushing did not fix vibration. please help

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by pick21, Feb 3, 2018.

  1. Feb 3, 2018 at 5:30 PM
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    pick21

    pick21 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I installed 5100 billys 887 springs 1 inch rear block. had it aligned. and had vibrations at around 25 mph. goes away in 4wd. installed ecgs bushing and still have same vibes. any ideas would be great
     
  2. Feb 3, 2018 at 6:04 PM
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    Did you add a diff drop to the setup? If you did take it off
     
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  3. Feb 3, 2018 at 6:04 PM
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    Rear axle shims? Carrier bearing drop?
     
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  4. Feb 3, 2018 at 6:14 PM
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    no diff drop,rear axle shims or c/b drop
     
  5. Feb 3, 2018 at 6:18 PM
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    would a carrier bearing drop help?
     
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    No, for 1" only don't mess with that shit.

    If you installed bigger tires too they might not be perfectly balanced
     
  7. Feb 3, 2018 at 6:48 PM
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    ko2 265/75/16. could a bad alignment cause the vibes?

    has anybody had the problem not fixed with the ecgs bushing
     
  8. Feb 3, 2018 at 7:06 PM
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    Alignment sheet available? Who installed the ECGS, yourself or a shop? Maybe road force balance your tire....I'm assuming stock UCA?

    I've had no problems with my ecgs install.
     
  9. Feb 3, 2018 at 7:11 PM
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    A shop did the ECGS install. Yes stock UCAs.
     
  10. Feb 3, 2018 at 7:47 PM
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    Lift was installed properly with everything torqued correctly(in the air vs on the ground)?

    Occured after lift? After tires? Both?

    Change wheels? Hub centric? Lug centric? Torqued properly?

    Road force balanced? If lug centric, was it balanced using a lug adapter instead of hub cone? If oversized hub bore do you have hub rings? Does it change rotating tires around?

    Did you have it aligned after lift?

    Does it increase or decrease with wheel speed?

    In a certain speed range?

    Under acceleration through a certain speed range? Under deceleration through a certain speed range?

    Higher frequency than wheel speed?

    Feel it in the steering wheel or in the body?

    Still goes away in 4wd?

    Point being, it could be anything...
    It helps to be as detailed and descriptive as possible to help narrow it down.
     
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  11. Feb 4, 2018 at 4:41 AM
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    Looks like things I would ask :devil:
    Lets look at some Vibration diagnostics . Anytime someone asks a vibration question , I copy and paste this .
    I believe there are at very minimum at least 12 different vibration issues associated with the Tacoma and all the vibrations / shudders get mixed into the same pot when members start posting as they are trying to help . This leaves the guy trying to fix his truck scratching his head . Process of elimination is the key .

    These are some diagnostics to try . If you bring your truck to a shop , they will be trying most of these to narrow your vibration down .
    Universal joints need to be lubricated at every oil change . Can you confirm this has been done ?
    Have you greased your driveline ?http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tec...rks-total.html
    Do you know how to grease your driveline properly http://spicerparts.com/resources/lube-torque-specs
    Have you slid under the truck and inspected to see if any driveshaft weights have fallen off ?
    Have you checked your carrier bearing https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/how-to-replacing-carrier-bearing.260283/
    Does the truck vibrate in park or neutral and does the vibration change with accelerator pedal ? This is a misfire test for your engine
    Does the truck vibrate while holding the brakes and hitting the gas - Automatic ? This is also a misfire test for your engine under load
    Does the truck vibrate in neutral at a stand still ?or coasting in neutral ?
    Does the truck vibrate in 4x4 ?
    Is your truck cold or warm when you feel the vibe ?
    Does the truck " Only vibrate " from 1st to 2nd gear ? https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/vibration-when-accelerating-from-stop-anyone-fixed-it.300155/
    Does the truck only vibrate in 2 wheel drive ?https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...differential-bearing-vibration-thread.152173/
    Build your own removal tool for the front diff
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/ecgs-tool-cheat-code.530484/
    Does the truck vibrate with the serpentine belt removed ? Maximum of 4 minutes run time . You are only running the engine to check for a vibe
    Does the truck vibrate cold or hot ?
    Does the truck vibrate if you select neutral and coast to a slow roll without using the brakes ? What happens when you turn the truck off in Neutral at highway speed ? Can you still feel the vibration ?
    Does the truck clunk over bumps ?https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/tacoma-loose-bed-design-flaw-explanation.388873/
    Does the truck vibrate as you are braking ? When was your last brake job ? Consider the front rotors may be warped or the rear drums are out of round .
    Does the truck vibrate with weight in the truck or empty ?
    Does the truck vibrate while upshifting ? Have you checked your trans fluid ?
    Does the truck vibrate while downshifting ? Have you checked your trans fluid ?
    When was your last transmission fluid service ?
    Is the vibration caused by your torque converter ? Tapping the brake pedal at highway speeds will release the torque converter clutch . You are not actually hitting the brakes ,but manipulating the brake switch . If the vibration goes away you can expect a misfire or a converter clutch issue .
    Read here for more information regarding automatic transmission diagnostics
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...th-pics-for-second-gen-4-liter-trucks.289913/
    Now that you have a lift kit installed the truck vibrates . Did you cancel your drive line angles ?
    Have you looked at the condition of your body and frame mounts ? if the body is resting on the frame with no insulator , you are going to feel droning ..Thats for sure .
    Have you looked at the condition of your tires ? Toyota says to rotate every 5000 miles .Tacoma tires must be road forced balanced using the Haweka adapter on the tire machine [​IMG]tsu00296.pdf
    When was the last time you rotated your tires ? Are you using LUG centric aftermarket wheels that are incredibly difficult to balance ? have you considered " HUB centric rings "
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...ally-cured-hub-centric-vs-lug-centric.220066/

    http://www.amazon.ca/s/?ie=UTF8&key...vptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_7ybe1f1pby_e
    Have the balance weights fallen off the tires ?

    A good vibration technician can tell immediately if your vibration is caused by the rotating speed of your wheels or by the rotating speed of your driveshaft .
    If you go through this list carefully , you should be able to narrow down where the problem is .
    The proper and only way to test for bad universal joints is with the driveshaft removed . You cant tell if the universal joints are seized or tight spots with the driveshaft on the truck . You may see play in the universal joints , but you wont be able to properly check the u-joints without removing the driveshaft .All it takes to create a vibration is one seized universal cup and there are 4 cups within each joint .
    With this said , you cant tell if that cup is seized with the driveshaft connected .
    Removing the driveshaft and manipulate each universal joint by hand from side to side feeling for tight spots as you go is the only way to check for bad u joints
    If you beleive its bad motor mounts or transmission mounts , grab a big pry bar and pry at the mounts to see if the rubber is torn or weak .

    CANCEL DRIVELINE ANGLES http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd...tion-free.html
    As your suspension begins to age , the drive line angle will change creating issues


    Want that vibration gone ?
    Tome Woods driveshaft
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/single-piece-driveshaft-vibes-be-gone.475797/
     
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  12. May 5, 2020 at 7:11 PM
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    REVIVE. Hey OP, did you ever get this resolved? I got the bushing installed but my vibration is still there. It got better, but it still noticable. Thanks!
     
  13. Mar 5, 2021 at 2:35 PM
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    Did you ever figure your issue out? My truck also has vibration after the bushing install. Between 40mph and 55mph
     

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