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Blizzak LT for off-road winter driving?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by Haun0002, Mar 20, 2021.

  1. Mar 20, 2021 at 9:23 AM
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    I am not sure if it's worth it to consider when you already have a similar type of tire.
    Duratracs are OK in deep snow, I will continue using them, I just need to test them at 8psi to see how better they perform, any at snow flake will never be as good as winter tires. In any case you have tons of guys saying good things about duratracs and they buy them over and over. I will buy them again.

    I also have a set of mud tires to use outside winter season, better in mud and rocks than at's . But My truck has a lot of sound proofing, in yours could be noisy.
     
  2. Mar 20, 2021 at 9:24 AM
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    This is the worst part about snow wheeling a IFS rig. Without tall tires you wil just creat a snow wedge under your skids, especially if you have any momentum. I find all 4 tires off the ground a lot in the wet snow we get out here. Next winter I am going to pull my skids and see how it does. My straight axle rig just plows through it.
     
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  3. Mar 20, 2021 at 9:25 AM
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    How is it having studs if you run on pavement 95% of the time and highways?
     
  4. Mar 20, 2021 at 9:26 AM
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    ya but then I’d need a bumper too lol. Eventually I will but the wife would probably murder me if I came home with 3k of truck stuff haha
     
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    Yeah, heard that one before. It sucks, but yeah, what can u do.
    The guys in usa add sipping to older tires or at's. Does it work or is there anyone that does it here?
     
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    There is a test somewhere on internet where they tested all the general grabbers line and there is nothing better than a winter tire on snow. The difference is noticeable.
    I would be ok with daily driving or highway in at's 3 peak. I even driven on all seasons in snow storms. It's all about adapt to the conditions. Even If I need to drive at 40kmh on a highway. In off-road or unmaintained roads, forget it.
     
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    @tacoma16 you can probably agree that Im biased for the blizzaks dmv2 (P255/70/17 @ 15psi)after the rally run but cant deny winch before another set of tires is the right order.
     
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  8. Mar 20, 2021 at 11:13 AM
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    If The budget is a thing, maybe falken all year and just lower the tires to 12, 10 or even 8 psi if needed
     
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    Oh yeah, shovel like you have and 100$ recovery boards
     
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    Half way there if you don’t get tires lol

    I was thinking of you. My only thing would be if the snow is so deep you would just dig till you bottomed out. Other then that, a tores designed for snow will always be better. No doubt.
     
  11. Mar 20, 2021 at 2:32 PM
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    it’s not off the table to run a 255/80 WP year round.

    but in my location that’s about 1300$ worth of tire.
     
  12. Mar 20, 2021 at 2:35 PM
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    from what I recall in that test, most of the conditions were similar to on road. The falken WPs I have now work well in light snow/thin hard packed stuff, but I can’t help but thinking the snow covered hills would be more easily traversed with a winter tire.
     
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    For sure, winter tires will be better in loose snow. You will get better traction with the snow packed in those groves. At's will clean out and not gain as much traction
     
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    I have not wheeled the Bizzak's specifically, but I did have Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2 265/70/16 for a dedicated winter tire, the first 2 winters I had the truck.



    This is the most they could snow wheel in and they got stuck in this easy. Aired down, not aired down. They just could not do it in deep snow. Then if there was mud from early or late season, forget it. They just cant do mud, or sand. Anything but snow they just fail.

    Now I run Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx 255/80/R17 E rated all year round, and the difference is unbelievable. These things get better and better the more you air them down. I run 5 ~ 6 PSI all day sometimes for snow wheeling.


    I find they do great on snow in town to get out to the wheeling, as my truck is just dedicated to wheeling now. I have no issues with my Cooper ST MAXX around town and such. Sure a set of studded ones would be 100% better. Studd's are the next level of awesome.
     
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  15. Mar 20, 2021 at 5:41 PM
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    This is the exact type of feedback that I’m looking for! Thank you!

    I am genuinely surprised that the ST Maxx get such rave reviews, especially in our climate.

    how are they on road? For me if I’m going to do a 4 season tire, on road winter performance needs to be decent. Not necessarily winter tire performance but good enough that I will have confidence on the highway/urban streets during slushy/ light snow days.
     
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    If you look at his comment, he airs down the tires a lot. If you already have all season tires, snow rated, you could still try to air them down to 6psi to see how well they perform.

    Who knows, just a matter of airing down even more. I never aired down mines below 12psi. Next season I am going to try the duratracs at 8psi. I have 18“ wheels, so I can't air down as much as you.
     
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    Another thing I want to point out is that you are going to find guys that hate duratracs on snow, others love it, some love coopers, others hate them. One day you have a bad experience and suddenly you think your tires are crap, but maybe they aren't. People's opinions are all over the place.

    Some have a specific kind of snow. Some live in areas with some hills, others only run on flat ground. The same tire may be great on flat snow, and less good on snowy/icey hills.

    Read this guy's opinion (3bears), he illustrates what I just tried to explain. One day with certain conditions the cooper may be better, the next day the wildpeak may be better, the other day the blizzark may be best of all.
     
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    ST Maxx are great on road. I run mine ~40 PSI, so they're a bit on the stiff side but no real issues with road noise (they're slightly louder than the stock goodyears, but not nearly as much as I thought they'd be).
     
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  20. Mar 22, 2021 at 9:31 AM
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    For snow wheeling I would 100% recommend a set (or two) of good recovery boards. Then down the road get a winch if you think its still a good idea.

    Never run studded myself. But they are loud as hell on dry pavement. Got to look into your local laws as well, most states / provinces have dates which you are not allowed to run studded tires on public roads
     

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