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Odd Toytec Lift Results...

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by swendling12, Dec 2, 2010.

  1. Dec 4, 2010 at 5:54 PM
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    Is there some sort of trick to adjusting them? I just went to drop down the driver's side, even with a 4' cheater bar it was a beast. Tried a bit of liquid wrench on the threads top and bottom, and along the washers under the spring. After a ton of struggle we only got it dropped a quarter of a inch before calling it a night.

    Also discovered that the alignment shop over torqued the shit out one of the lug nuts. Broke off when I tried to take it off.

    I'm not in a huge hurry to get it fixed yet since i'm heading out of town for two weeks, But want to get it figured out.
     
  2. Dec 4, 2010 at 6:44 PM
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    did you jack up the wheels? I believe you did cause you had to take off the lug nuts but I got two, 2 foot pieces of 5/16 stainless steel rod at orchard supply/homedepot, I find with 2 it is much easier
     
  3. Dec 4, 2010 at 7:00 PM
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    Yeah, The driver's side was completely off the ground w/ the sway bar disconnected. My dad and I figured we'd have to get a 2nd cheater; 1 4' one wasn't enough.
     
  4. Dec 9, 2010 at 7:48 PM
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    How hard is it to replace the a broken stud on the front end? The alignment shop pulled a it wasn't us must have been someone else....
     
  5. Dec 30, 2010 at 2:35 PM
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    I got everything adjusted down. The passenger side coilover seized up right at the end. Bent up 3 sets of wrenches before just deciding to adjust the driver's side to match and not mess with it. Ended with measurements right @ 38.25" on both sides after settling. Ride smoothed up and some vibration went away.

    I still have a intermittent thumping or rubbing noise that seems to correspond with 1 rotation of the tires. So 1 rotation = 1 thump. This goes away in 4x4. I am I correct in my searching that this is most likely one of the bearings on the driveline?


    Thanks
     
  6. Dec 30, 2010 at 2:41 PM
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    same thing happened with my toytech coilovers on my reg cab 4 cyl. I think it has to do with the weight difference of the 4cyl compared to the 6 cyl. I had to crank mine down also.
     
  7. Dec 30, 2010 at 2:41 PM
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    x2 im surprised the boots aren't gone already
     
  8. Jan 4, 2011 at 5:02 PM
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    Damn, bent 3 wrenches? Mine seem to move pretty easily w/ some wd-40. What kind of thump? Mine does it but it's front fenders so had to trim those back. What thread measurement do you have?
     
  9. Jan 4, 2011 at 7:44 PM
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    this sound like a bad cluster f**k if u can sell those and get eibach coils they are awesome... unless u want more lift than they provide.. you could then put a small spacer ontop if not to rough of a ride for more lift
     
  10. Jan 4, 2011 at 8:11 PM
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    That's basically what he's got.....an eibach spring with a billie 5100. Sorry you're having so many issues. Wonder if toytec can help you out!
     
  11. Jan 4, 2011 at 9:39 PM
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    same shit as everyone else
    I have the exact same lift setup. I got a ton of lift out of the shocks to begin with as well. I have them set at about 1.55 inches of thread from the bottom collar to the top. This should leave you with a good amount of lift.
     
  12. Jan 5, 2011 at 6:08 AM
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    There is roughly 3/4 of an inch of threads left. I'm relatively content with leaving it adjusted down to a 3" lift overall in front. If I want it lower I'm going to have to remove the passenger coilover and use a spring compressor.

    The wrenches took a beating adjusting them down, but when the passenger side adjusting ring seized up the wrenches started folding trying to get it moved to where I needed it. Ended up using a large pipe wrench to get the two sides equal, pipe wrench on soft aluminum is a painful sight; passenger side is locked up tight still though. This is all despite dousing all moving parts involved in adjusting the coilovers liberally with liquid wrench. The design of the proprietary wrenches that they supply is flawed. The nub on the end would just fold back. The one time that it didn't the handle of the wrench bent in half. We were using 4' DOM tubing as cheater bars and couldn't break the bastard loose.

    Toytec was called multiple times and essentially wasnt much help. Gave me a free replacement set of wrenches for the first set that died. Spent about $1800 there, and $20 in wrenches didn't impress me much, since I had to pay the additional shipping to get them shipped faster than usps standard. Idk, I guess this isn't a huge deal, but didn't sit well.

    I don't think it's a tire rubbing, I thought initially that was what it was, so I spaced the tires out with a set of spidertracs. I have good clearance now on all sides. It almost has to be a driveline part.
     
  13. Jan 5, 2011 at 8:22 AM
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    We adjust the coilovers all the time here with the supplied wrenches and they are adequate. It sounds like there may be a corrosion issue or some dirt that got jammed in the threads. All coilover's are going to seize the threads after some time due to dirt and corrosion since they are directly exposed to the elements.
    We can offer a warranty exchange if you cannot adjust the one side. Call me if you want to go that route.

    Thanks
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  14. Jan 5, 2011 at 9:49 AM
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    This occurred/ they were adjusted after being on the truck for less than 3 weeks, or less than 300 miles. They were pristine. I may be in contact about the warranty. However at this point I managed to get the lift dialed down to a reasonable level before it seized, and I'm apprehensive about tearing everything apart again.
     
  15. Jan 6, 2011 at 6:10 PM
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    I would look into the warranty exchange. The hole point is to have "adjustable coilovers" and ya you are happy with where they are now but down the road you may need to make adjustments. All you would have to do is switch them out and set the new ones where they other was. Good luck and keep us posted!
     
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    same shit as everyone else
    When I received mine they were adjusted at 5 inches of lift. I believe they had 2 and 1/4 inches of thread exposed between the collars. I was not happy and broke my large wrench while tryingto bring them back down even with a pipe attached to both wrenches. The nipple on the end of the wrench just snapped off. So I had to fabricate a new one at work. I like the way they ride but they took a lot of troubleshooting to get them right... Oh well I'm happy
     
  17. Jan 6, 2011 at 6:38 PM
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    same shit as everyone else
    Btw penetrating oil will make a huge difference in adjusting them. Not WD40 I mean real penetrating oil!
     
  18. Jan 6, 2011 at 8:18 PM
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    Hope that works out in the end man. The response from Toytec is a little lame though, no offense Dylan, just a little more ownership and care would go a long way when someone is having trouble on a part that they put good money out on. I have heard good things generally about them, but that sucks. I also think that though it is a pain in the ass you should see about warranty, you want a part you can be happy with, not second guess. It is your truck and your money.
     
  19. Jan 7, 2011 at 6:24 AM
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    Thanks for the support guys. It's actually a bit comforting to know that I'm not the only one that has put these on and found that they yield 5 inches of lift out of the box, and had to fight to adjust them down.

    1. When installing parts initially I had a hell of a time with parts breaking- broke a wheel stud, and 3 sets of spanner wrenches are scrap now. Also had to do a rush repair @ toyota when I wasn't able to get the brake lines loose in the rear end apart to install the longer ones, left myself essentially half done w/ unsafe brakes. The installation of the LR upper control arms didn't go too smoothly either. Summary-Not a great experience, not optimistic about tearing it apart again, but seems like I need to.

    2. The fact that these Toytec coils are not consistently yielding the lift advertised by them is annoying. I don't know if they are not being assembled correctly by them, and they are on the wrong snap ring on the 5100's or what.

    But the fact that just from this thread, 2 other guys have come forward that they got over 5" of lift is proof that something is wrong. Weight of the front end doesn't equate for 2.5" over advertised lift IMHO.

    If I get new ones, and get 5" of lift again, and adjust it down to 2.5" of lift, then I'll have less than .5" left of threads left to adjust it down, if any at all. These numbers are from the fact that @ 3" of lift I have less than .75" of threads left. This pretty much leaves me with no more "adjustable" of shocks than the seized ones I have now.

    I guess I just have some decisions to make.
     

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