2016 Motor Failure

i must have missed the "4.0 engine option" when buying my 3rd gen. But why argue for an engine that isnt avaliable anymore? when a reputation is established you wont be able to buy it anymore.

 

“replace the bearings yourself”…..”8hours to swap an engine”

This stuff has to stop. Someone came here for help and real knowledge, not this nonsense.

 

You've must've missed my preamble where I stated if they had an extra vehicle to drive during "self-maintenance" it would be much cheaper, not quicker. Additionally replacing rod bearings and engine swaps are not codependent; rod bearings can be replaced, albeit not perfectly, as stated previously by another member, without paying mechanics to swap the engine entirely.

If fixing the vehicle, which still has a note, is unable to be fixed within a reasonable price, professionally, it would be significantly wiser for money to buy a beater until the Tacoma can be repaired otherwise it is highly likely it can't be sold at a reasonable enough price to get near cancelling the debt, after which they'd still be stuck with a smaller debt and still no vehicle. If the truck is worth it try to salvage it.

 

you are assuming alot. spun rod bearings could be a sign of something else. damaged crank journals are a real possibility depending on how long the knock persisted.

it would be worth the gamble if capable and 2nd vehicle but i dont think this is that situation on either fronts

 

There is no guarantee that it is a rod knocking. I’ve seen valve springs break and make a loud knocking noise without dropping the valve into the cylinder. I would have it towed home, check compression on all cylinders to find the problem cylinder, pull the valve cover off for that cylinder and inspect the valve train. A connecting rod usually starts off with a little knock and gets worse over time. This happened all of the sudden like something broke. I would also consider sending off an oil sample for analysis. If it’s a rod knocking then it will have bearing material in the oil.

 

It must suck being broke, dumb and zero mechanical aptitude.
Not talking about you, just general observation of population.
Manufacturers are now adding warning labels to batteries to deter commoners from drinking its contents(acid).
With that said, do you think a regular joe can do an oil change, let alone rod bearings?

 

Sad but true. Sometimes a simple oil change leads to a post on here where someone drained their transmission fluid, and then overfilled the engine oil. Two separate and entirely avoidable problems if one simply slows down and pays attention. I’m not perfect but I’ll don’t need a label telling me battery acid isn’t a thirst quencher, and I won’t ever replace an old air filter with a calzone. Wait long enough and society will stop surprising you.

 

Ive owned an e46 M3 for 12 years, I learned to do things like, subframe reinforcement, VANOS rebuild and rod bearing among other things, I don’t consider my self smart, just all around average.
Do people not care to learn skills that will help make their life a little easier?
*end to my inner monologue*

 

Details on what failed in the engine might be helpful.
You dont know what questions to ask?
Specifically, what broke Mr service manager?
Try that one.
I will assume you know what pistons look like and sorta know what they do, crankshaft, camshafts...ect ect

Sorry but you brought this on yourself.

 

What does a chip shortage have to do with a busted engine?
Salvage engines are all over the place.

 

In theory you're very right..I've always said people should at least learn enough about vehicles to know what is what even if they don't roll up their sleeves and wrench.

I have a friend who knows nothing and is afraid to try..just her own fears.

 

Absolutely no guarantee it is a rod knocking as well, this is very true.

It seems, to me, that it is a matter of spiritual economics; meaning we all have a finite amount of time and others prefer to allot their limited time in areas that are most meaningful to them. To some, mastery of space is a quintessential element in making their finite lives meaningful.. this manifests itself in mastering their belongings i.e. buying a truck and learning everything that is needed to operate and repair it, same goes for home owners/builders, marksmanship, etc.. The skills to do so however are typically born out of necessity and so those that have the knowhow to do preventative and routine maintenance learned to do so because they did not have loads of money to throw at the "problem". As for time, some believe it is better to throw money at the issues (oil changes, plumbing repair, what have you) and preserve some of their precious time for more pressing matters such as a their high paying job or family.
*end to inner monologue*

 

Valid point.
Me, learning new skills, stems from necessity.
Growing up in former ussr requires one to fend for themselves, by almost all means necessary.

Back on track, I hope op can land on her feet.
I suspect something, somewhere was skipped as it pertains maintenance.

 

I mentioned the chip shortage not because of the availability of used engines but because it caused our trucks to appreciate over the last 6 months due to a decrease in supply. There were multiple responses recommending OP sell the truck on Craigslist or to Carvana 'as is'. In my opinion OP may be better off financially to fix the truck and sell it to a private party if she chose not to fix it and keep it. Just to throw out some rough numbers; if a new engine is necessary and cost ~$8k (just to have a #), she could sell a 2016 Tacoma with 145k on a clean chassis with a newly installed low mileage engine (with 1 yr warranty from whoever fixes it) for $20k to a private party and end up with $2k equity to use towards a replacement vehicle after paying off the $10k auto loan. If we weren't facing a chip shortage, she might only get $16k for that same used Tacoma on the secondary market and it may be not be as worthwhile to wait for the truck to get fixed, pay for the repairs out of pocket, and then go through the hassle of selling the truck on Craigslist.

 

It's one thing to change your own oil and totally another to play rod bearing swap in the driveway on a Tacoma. I think the engine would have to come out just to have access to everything, plus the rod bolts are likely one time use.

I'm not a surgeon, but I once burnt a mole or two off with a soldering iron. I wasn't paying a doctor to do it.

 

And now we know how you got your username

 

Me , learning how ro work on a vehicle stems from necessity . Growing up in former not much money in the pocket requires one to fend for themselves by almost any means necessary .