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Roll Cage questions and ideas

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by RangeDrive, Apr 10, 2021.

  1. Apr 10, 2021 at 10:03 PM
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    RangeDrive

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    Hey guys, I’m interested in caging my truck. It’s a 04 double cab. What I want out of the cage is something safe a high speeds ( obviously), and something that can be a good foundation for down the road if I end up tying in the engine cage, or linking the rear and tying the bed cage into it.

    I see 4x innovations makes a kit, but I have a few questions and concerns about it.
    #1: it doesn’t have a dash bar or a “A” frame near the windshield.
    #2 the A pillar tube is bent around the dash, and that seems like a weak point for high speed crashes.

    Is the 4x cage good for desert trucks, or is it more for crawling?

    Should I be looking at a custom cage, and if so who do you recommend, and what budget am I looking at?

    sorry for all the questions, here’s the link to the 4x cage
    https://www.4xinnovations.com/2001--2004-Double-Cab-Tacoma-Roll-Cage--DOM-Tubing_p_155.html

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  2. Apr 10, 2021 at 10:13 PM
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    Strip the interior, get some welding blankets, a mandrel pipe bender and build your own. Nice truck you got there too. Good luck.
     
  3. Apr 10, 2021 at 10:17 PM
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    As much as I’d love just to send it and DIY, my fab skills aren’t good enough for me to trust mine, or my families life to. Also idk the design knowledge required to build a safe cage. I’ll definitely be paying someone to weld it for me, even if I get the 4x kit
     
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    Sounds good, I do as much as I can also. When it comes time to do a mod that is above my skill level, I take my truck to a friend who has the experience and equipment to help me. Still cost me a bit of $$$$, and that is even getting the friend discount.
     
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  5. Apr 11, 2021 at 2:35 PM
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    Make sure you buy tubing and a bender specifically setup for tubing. Pipe is measured differently and is not structural.
     
  7. Apr 12, 2021 at 2:33 PM
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    Is this your daily driver? If so, don't even think about caging it is my advice.

    If it's not your DD and high speed offroad use is part of the risk you are looking to mitigate, I'd take it to a western US (CA, AZ, NV, etc.) based offroad shop and have a cage built. I'm military myself and have been stationed all over - it's very hard to find shops in the midwest or east coast that know anything but rock crawler builds and you're just not going to get the knowledge or experience you get out of a western US based shop that builds high speed desert trucks.

    SCORE standards are a good metric to shoot for, both in terms of safety and adding resale value to the build.
     
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    Yeah it’s strictly a trailered toy, so I’m not concerned about the loss of convenience. Luckily for me I’m in Tucson, so I’m definitely going to have a shop do the welding for me. I was just thinking I could save some money with a precut cage to cut down on the labor costs. The shop I’ve talked to here charges around $85-$100 per hour in labor!
     
  10. Apr 13, 2021 at 3:31 PM
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    Quality roll cages could easily cost $4k+

    The best way to save on shop time would be removing all the glass and interior so they don’t have to charge you and put it back later.
     
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  12. Apr 13, 2021 at 7:57 PM
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    I was thinking about getting the 4x for my double cab and customizing a bit off of their design to make it my own but I’m not quite there yet.
     
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  14. Jul 28, 2021 at 2:40 PM
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    Yeah I think I’m going to do the same when the time comes
     
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    I feel like “most” of the layout is done with the kit. Then you can kinda eyeball the rest of the cage and burn some extra support here and there
     
  16. Jul 28, 2021 at 2:46 PM
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    Yeah I’d want to delete the kits A pillar and out an actual one, add a dash bar and triangulate the roof bars as well.
     
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    My thoughts exactly
     

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