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I need answers from someone who has bought new wheels and tires.

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by 808charger, Sep 22, 2021.

  1. Sep 22, 2021 at 2:36 PM
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    808charger

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    im buying nee wheels and tires for my 2013. First of all do I really need the tpms sensors?? Also does my new wheels come with valve stems or do I have to buy them also.
     
  2. Sep 22, 2021 at 2:42 PM
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    No you do not “need” the TPMS for the truck to run. The low pressure light will always be on. Check your state and local authorities if required by law. Generally, you need to buy new valve stems. YMMV
     
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  3. Sep 22, 2021 at 2:57 PM
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    MGMDesertTaco

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    Valve stems and tpms are not included. You can purchase new tpms or reuse the old ones if they still work. Valve stems are always replaced when new tires are mounted and is often included in the mounting and balancing fee at tire shops. I know my Costco tire center sells tpms for around 40-50 bucks a piece.
     
  5. Sep 22, 2021 at 3:31 PM
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    You should be able to reuse them as long as they have the correct angle to not interfere with tire mounting. Steel wheels and Aluminum wheels have a different angle on the sensors and are not interchangeable.
     
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    - The correct answer is yes, you need them -
    They serve as a warning to a low tire. A low tire flexes more.
    This constant flexing generates heat, which I’m turn causes failure.
    And sometimes the failure happens quick. Very quick.

    Now for the - Not so good advice -

    I chose NOT to replace my TPMS Sensors when I had new tires put on.
    My light had been of for a couple years. I got used to it, and I didn’t mind.

    Some tire stores will not replace the stems with standard NonTPMS stems.
    My tire store didn’t want to, but they did rebuild my OE stems?
    (The light is still on. There is no way to replace the battery in the stem)

    What you need to understand is this,

    If you choose not to replace the sensors with working good sensors, the liability is on you.
    If my tire blows out, it’s no ones fault but my own. I try to make a habit of checking them often.
     
  7. Sep 22, 2021 at 3:59 PM
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    taco912

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    Listen.........autos...cars.....trucks have run on inter-tube rubber tires for 150 years without a TPS system. Move on, not needed, look for the mod that turns the light off.
     
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  8. Sep 22, 2021 at 4:21 PM
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    Waasheem

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    Tpms sensors is the valve stem. They don’t come with new tires.

    When I bought 4 new tires, I didn’t replace my sensors. Went back 2 weeks later to replace one that died. Went back 3 weeks later to replace another that died. Went back a week later to find out my spare is too old to hold air so my warning light stays lit.

    It’s up to your preference. If you like being warned you have a tire with low pressure, it’s a good idea to replace them all, unless you know they’ve been replaced recently. If you check your tires periodically and don’t mind looking at that light, don’t change them.
     
  9. Sep 22, 2021 at 4:51 PM
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    When the tps light went off for me wife and We were in a remote area on New Year’s Day. I chose a safe spot and noticed low pressure had activated the light. Rather than ruin a tire I mounted up the spare and limped into a tire shop, the only one open on a holiday. Because the light alerted me to a problem I was able to fix it before it overheated or blew out. Anyone telling you to bypass a safety system on your truck is at best naive and or careless or lacking in experience, perhaps a combination of all three.

    unless you sell to a mouth breather anyone is going to deduct the cost of a tps on, same as check engine light. figure the retail cost to replace them all from your asking price. For the smart guys that disable the light that’s easy to detect too. If you can’t afford to keep all the systems working on your ride it speaks volumes about you the owner. Pass on that one meanwhile as an old man born in the 50s I’ve logged many a mile in Toyota’s since the late 70s. I sold this truck today and got my asking price, why because it was clean and everything worked. It sold to the first guy that looked and he couldn’t get his wallet out fast enough.

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  10. Sep 22, 2021 at 5:07 PM
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    Your reply was mature and well put with the exception of this statement. Millions of people are driving cars without TPMS at this very moment. Therefore someone choosing to bypass that system simply needs to know how to consistently check their own tires.

    Yes, you're right, a person without TPMS wouldn't get a warning right at the very moment it gets low, but that's a specific instance with extremely low risk:

    A slow air leak isn't ideal but won't cause damage if a person checks consistently.

    A flat tire happens abruptly and the indications of a flat are always more obvious than the TPMS light coming on. I.e. popping noise, car vibrating, steering wheel pulling to side, etc

    To the OP: if you opt to not have TPMS, it's fine, it's not the end of the world like the above commenter would have you believe. Always visually check your tires ("hmm, that tire looks a little flat compared to the others" or "yup, all 4 look as good as yesterday"). Importantly, actually check your tire pressures at least monthly, as well as at the beginning, throughout and end of a road trip.
     
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    I have heard that some states require an annual safety inspection and if op lives in one of those states that might cause him not to pass. If it were me and if it was in my budget I’d just get all new sensors as a 2013 is probably getting close to end of battery life. However my wife’s 2010 is still good. If it’s a stretch for the budget then I’d at a minimum reuse the old TPMS but would save for an upcoming failure. When the 1st one goes out then I’d just plan to replace all of them in 1 shot. I personally don’t see the value in bypassing something that’s meant to keep you, your family and others safe along with potentially preventing damage to the vehicle itself. My $.02
     
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    You can buy new sensors for about $20 each.

    Amazon.com: MOBILETRON Tire Pressure Monitoring Sensor (TPMS) for Lexus, Toyota (TX-S008), 315MHz, Set of 4 : Automotive

    Your truck is 8 or 9 years old. Sensors typically last 7-10 years. Buy new ones and have them installed at no extra cost when you get your tires mounted.


    And people have been dying for 150 years when tires blew out at highway speeds.

    The sensors aren't there to replace your air gauge. They are there to warn you of a sudden tire deflation while driving. Twice since buying my Tacoma the light has come on while driving at 70+ mph on an interstate. I was able to get to the shoulder both times before the tire went completely flat due to running over debris in the road. Without TPMS sensors I'd have found out the tire was losing pressure when it came apart at 70 mph.

    Spending $80 every ten years is cheap insurance to keep them working. Works out to about the same cost as a McDonalds value meal once a year.
     
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    Yes, they are a different angle, but you can actually use the steel wheel TPMS by turning them around. I bought a set of TRD OR wheels and the Firestone shop did it for mine. I’m now on my second set of tires using the same sensors that came on the original steel rims.
     
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    I stand corrected. I don't think you can do the same going from aluminum to steel wheels.
     
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    Jose_Dirte

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    I reused when I got new wheels and tires. I bought an additional one to mount in my spare and have that in my rotation. Having five tpms's does not cause any issues for what it's worth I wasn't sure if it would or not when I had one installed in my spare.
     
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    Yes well you can’t explain this to people that cannot appreciate wisdom training and experience. Hell man I go way back to when we ran retreaded tires. A couple of high speed blowouts and some get the picture. The rest? That’s just thinning of the herd.
     
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    As far as I can tell....

    These are things people who say "men don't need tpms sensors" most likely have said:

    1. Back up cameras are stupid. Learn how to drive.
    2. Take your sway bar out, it drives fine without it.
    3. Why are you asking how to fix cosmetic damage? It's a truck, get over it.
    4. Why is your truck so clean, you must not wheel.
    5. Why are you asking about the weird noise you new vehicle is making? It's a truck, get over it.
    6. I fit 35s full lock, full stuff, no trim, no rub.
    7. It's stupid to get armor/bumpers/sliders powder coated. Just rattle can your $1k+ parts for your $33k+ truck.
    9. Seatbelts are for pussies.
    10. I actually use my truck.
    11. Just smash it with a hammer.

    These people are also the most likely to drive with their Baja Designs/Rigids turned on at all times while on road.
     
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    So many mythconceptions.

    The TPMS systems came about as a SAFETY device. Its purpose is to provide a warning of a low tire pressure to allow the driver time to pull off the road. This was done as a response to the Ford Explorer/Firestone roll-over accidents. The few extra moments the TPMS provides could avoid running several hundred yards on the rim at highway speeds with the possible loss of control..........

    As a driver, you need to check the tire pressures with a gauge.

    It is your choice if you want to by-pass a simple Safety device. I wouldn't advise such a choice.

    Personally, I check the tire pressures with a gauge on a regular basis. I also run with the TPMS. I expect the TPMS system to alert me to a tire losing pressure when I'm running on the highway. So I have a chance to stop to assess the situation before a desperate situation presents itself.
     
  19. Sep 23, 2021 at 4:00 AM
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    Stonekoldb1

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    Just desolder the damn tps led from instrument panel. Its a easy mod to change colors and know how to solder. Tps sensors constantly fail and are inaccurate in weather temp changes. I check my pressures once a week when i check rest of fluids,belts ujoints and uniballs ect.
     
  20. Sep 23, 2021 at 5:48 AM
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    When I switched wheels, my TPMS sensors would not fit on my new wheels. I placed my sensors in a sealed pressurized PVC tube and keep it in my cargo box. Been working great for several years now. Google "tpms pvc canister".
     
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