1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Supercharger seventh injector versus upgraded six injectors

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by Rldanie, Apr 30, 2019.

  1. Sep 23, 2021 at 1:15 PM
    #101
    jevey1

    jevey1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Member:
    #282495
    Messages:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    Okay great so it is wired correctly. Now I just need to sort out the -18% LTFT at idle and around town driving! I'll repost after I get time to do the boost leak test. I'll likely remove the MAF and re-clean that as well.
     
  2. Sep 23, 2021 at 1:24 PM
    #102
    Shortman5

    Shortman5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2013
    Member:
    #100952
    Messages:
    2,716
    Gender:
    Male
    ..
    Vehicle:
    Supercharged TRD
    TRD S/C, ADS coilovers.
    on second thought. Be sure you tapped into the AFR wire and did not intercept it.

    As long as you followed the URD wiring guide for the wiring harness/ECU year it should be correct.

    I don’t think you have a “boost leak” if it was bad enough at idle that would present as running lean. Your fuel trim would be rolling + not -.



    The only reason it would be running so rich at idle would be the AFR sensor reporting incorrectly or too much fuel.

    Unless MW sent you drilled injectors I can’t see why that would be happening.
     
  3. Sep 23, 2021 at 1:44 PM
    #103
    jevey1

    jevey1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Member:
    #282495
    Messages:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    Yeah I followed the installation guide to the letter. The AFR's are right where I want them to be now with the new injectors installed through all types of driving. Except as mentioned above when pulling a trailer on the highway and something gets askew... 8.8 and running rough; W hen I pull over it will idle rough with AFR around 11.5-12.7 for a few minutes and it will settle back out again. THis never happens without the trailer.

    When idling my stand-alone Boost/AFR gauge will read anywhere from 14.5-15.1 and fluctuate there. All the while the LTFT sits at -18%. SO, I think the truck is actually pulling fuel and doing what it needs to maintain stoichiometric mixture. Question is, why!
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2021
  4. Sep 23, 2021 at 6:18 PM
    #104
    Jon64l

    Jon64l Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2016
    Member:
    #174799
    Messages:
    1,604
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jon
    Vehicle:
    2000 4runner, 1996 Tacoma
    Screenshot_20210923-181545_Drive.jpg
    @jevey1 how is your fuel regulator hooked up?
     
  5. Sep 24, 2021 at 8:54 AM
    #105
    jevey1

    jevey1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Member:
    #282495
    Messages:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    Mine is installed as per the attached picture. The small line from the Tee goes to the AIC/T and my boost gauge.

    20210924_132018.jpg
     
  6. Sep 24, 2021 at 9:10 AM
    #106
    Jon64l

    Jon64l Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2016
    Member:
    #174799
    Messages:
    1,604
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jon
    Vehicle:
    2000 4runner, 1996 Tacoma
    Idk, I'm out of ideas unless those injectors flow more.
    In the meantime that heater valve might need some love.
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2021
  7. Sep 24, 2021 at 11:47 AM
    #107
    jevey1

    jevey1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Member:
    #282495
    Messages:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    HaHa, Thought someone might comment on the valve. Its not leaking. They use Salt on the roads winter time here, so the truck is coated with rust inhibitor.

    We can only but 91 octane fuel locally, and I have been using the lucas oil octane booster to add a little protection on my last tune with the old injectors. Perhaps I will just fill with 91 and leave out the booster next time to see if that helps? Would that have an impact on STFT and LTFT?

    I greatly appreciate all the feedback so far. BTW I haven't gotten around to performing the boost leak test as of yet, but plan to at least clean the MAF over the weekend.
     
  8. Sep 24, 2021 at 12:23 PM
    #108
    Jon64l

    Jon64l Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2016
    Member:
    #174799
    Messages:
    1,604
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jon
    Vehicle:
    2000 4runner, 1996 Tacoma
    That makes sense, dang salt.

    Anything is worth a try at this point. Just try to change one variable at a time.

    No worries, I'm interested to see what it turns out to be. Could be helpful later on.
     
  9. Sep 30, 2021 at 5:35 AM
    #109
    jevey1

    jevey1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Member:
    #282495
    Messages:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    Okay, so had time to remove the MAF and clean, no change in the LTFT's. Got to ask what is the best way to look for exhaust leaks? I stuck a small "shop vac" in the tail pipe (while cold) in the blow direction and sprayed it down with soapy water. Found some leaks and got those fixed, but when the truck is cold and warming up it sounds like there is a still a small leak somewhere... like a ticking noise. Any suggestions to narrow it down better?
     
  10. Oct 2, 2021 at 11:24 AM
    #110
    Clay_916

    Clay_916 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2015
    Member:
    #160686
    Messages:
    1,501
    Gender:
    Male
    Fort Collins, CO
    Vehicle:
    2000 x-cab 4x4
    5100's, All Pro 3" Standard leafs, 32" KM 2's
    What are your ST trims at idle? Manifold pressure at idle?
     
  11. Oct 3, 2021 at 4:34 AM
    #111
    jevey1

    jevey1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Member:
    #282495
    Messages:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    My STFT always return to zero after about 2 minutes. After a reset and a cold start the truck will start in open loop, afr will read 12.2. Once the truck goes into closed loop the STFT will go to about -17%, afr will go to 14.7 within a few seconds. Then after the 2 minutes the LTFT change to about -18% and the STFT return to very near zero. Manifold pressure at idle is around -10"hg, according to my stand alone gauge. And 4.39gm/sec air flow according to my trucks MAF.
     
  12. Oct 4, 2021 at 7:50 PM
    #112
    Clay_916

    Clay_916 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2015
    Member:
    #160686
    Messages:
    1,501
    Gender:
    Male
    Fort Collins, CO
    Vehicle:
    2000 x-cab 4x4
    5100's, All Pro 3" Standard leafs, 32" KM 2's
    Vacuum sounds a little high. Might have a leak in that line which sounds like it's both to the gauge and the FPR?
     
  13. Oct 5, 2021 at 7:10 AM
    #113
    jevey1

    jevey1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Member:
    #282495
    Messages:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    Are you referring to the line in the pictures above? Do you know what a good range for the vacuum pressure is at idle? What would be considered too high or low?
     
  14. Oct 6, 2021 at 1:54 PM
    #114
    Clay_916

    Clay_916 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2015
    Member:
    #160686
    Messages:
    1,501
    Gender:
    Male
    Fort Collins, CO
    Vehicle:
    2000 x-cab 4x4
    5100's, All Pro 3" Standard leafs, 32" KM 2's
    Think mine reads like -25 to -30

    And to be more clear.. I'm suggesting the higher pressure in that line could be affecting the FPR and leading to an increase in fuel rail pressure at idle.
     
  15. Oct 6, 2021 at 4:48 PM
    #115
    jevey1

    jevey1 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Member:
    #282495
    Messages:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    Ah okay, now I gotcha, that does make sense! I will see if i can search google for example and come up with a average MAP value to go by.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top