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Gen 2 Four wheel disc brake conversion.

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Pearson, Oct 4, 2021.

  1. Oct 5, 2021 at 12:39 AM
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    Jimmyh

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    No one claimed it didn't make a difference. Just know a difference can be a good difference or a bad difference...

    But whatever blows up your skirt... Meh
     
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  2. Oct 5, 2021 at 2:26 AM
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    The tacoma's are wide, I think only the 5th gen 4runner is as wide so if you go to a 4th gen runner it'll be narrow in the rear. IIRC the 4th gen is like a 62 or 63 wms (what fj80s are) to wms and the 2nd gen tacomas are 65 wms. Look a little goofy to me. It's a lot more work to get that to work than just swapping the stuff that SOS Performance makes. https://sosperformance.com/products...-with-parking-brake-slash-tr-dot-ps2-dot-ta16

    If you actually read everything there is a list of what all it includes you keep your parking brake and it uses stock components so you can go to any parts store and get stuff as it wears out. It's also the master that needs to be upgraded to move more volume of fluid.
     
  3. Oct 5, 2021 at 8:49 AM
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    Remains to be seen I bought the tires and wheels the rest came along
    Myself I would Not My Drum Brakes work Just fine .

    Because I can swap a 4Runner axle for the price of a used axle and some labor and Consumables .

    I had the axle here already to go( got tossed in the scrap during a major clean out kinda by mistake) that a friend was going to buy his Mom said No more Truck expenses living here for free. Mom won that round.
     
  4. Oct 5, 2021 at 8:55 AM
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    If you are heavily modified with lots of extra armor, 35+ size tires etc etc and tow heavy unbraked trailers then yes it will make a difference. Outside of that 99% of the people here on this form wont notice anything other than a lighter pocketbook.
     
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  5. Oct 5, 2021 at 9:03 AM
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    How many people with real world experience do you need feedback from before you believe it ? @Torspd care to jump into yet another pile of crap rear disc thread ?

    Simple facts - scenario #1 with a fully built truck 1k lbs over stock & 75% of that added weight over the back end of the truck with drums designed to handle an empty bed the drums fade badly. The discs clearly outperform the drums and the most noticeable & obvious differences being no fade and the truck staying more level during braking. Scenario # 2 - stock truck ( re: weight ) that is looking for better braking performance & balance ie: guys that like to play with autocross or high speed off roading - again braking performance affects vehicle handling under braking and you absolutely notice the difference. @Torspd can speak to this.
     
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  6. Oct 5, 2021 at 9:10 AM
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  7. Oct 5, 2021 at 9:14 AM
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    well there ya' go that's the dumbest thing I've read on this forum this week, congrats !
     
  8. Oct 5, 2021 at 1:02 PM
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    Of course it’s going to make a difference but 80% of the braking is done on the front so if you want to spend your money efficiently a BBK for the front is going to give you way more bang for your buck.

    If you’re driving a fully built, supercharged heavily armoured truck or you tow at max regularly or race and have already done a BBK then it might be worth it. To the vast majority of guys with lightly modified trucks it’s not worth the expense or time.
     
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  9. Oct 5, 2021 at 3:46 PM
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    Value is just as subjective as wants and needs.

    Does it (the conversion) work better than drums? Yes. Do the e-brakes work as well as OEM? The early versions did not. The later (current) versions do.

    Do any of us owners "need" to add modifications? No. Do we want to? Perhaps.

    Do we need to debate the ideas we have over those have whom have done it? Perhaps. Is it necessary? No. But why take the joy out of debates. :stirthepot:

    Mods, including rear disk conversions, are all a matter of geometry. If this - then this. You want to do something. Then you learn that you need to add this. So on and so forth.

    Now we have race trucks, PreRunning Desert racers, Overland explorers, plain Jane DD's, and whatever else.

    Wait. What are we talking about again? Oh yeah. :playball:
     
  10. Oct 5, 2021 at 4:30 PM
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  11. Oct 5, 2021 at 4:37 PM
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    I agree with tacotuesday on what he said. Drum brakes suck period. I find it pathetic any auto manufacturer building modern cars with ancient brake tech (drum brakes) just to save a few bucks.
     
  12. Oct 5, 2021 at 4:59 PM
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    HERE HERE!!! WELL SAID!!!
     
  13. Oct 5, 2021 at 5:10 PM
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    You loosers and your old 2nd gen trucks. If you wanted rear disc brakes you should have bought a 3rd gen
     
  14. Oct 5, 2021 at 5:18 PM
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    :bananadead::bowdown:
     
  15. Oct 5, 2021 at 5:27 PM
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    So you lose parking brakes with that kit?
     
  16. Oct 5, 2021 at 5:45 PM
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    With the Tundra Racing kit, you have the option.
     
  17. Oct 5, 2021 at 7:54 PM
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    LOL.

    Try proofreading yours.
     
  18. Oct 5, 2021 at 8:34 PM
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    It's probably cheaper to fit whatever came on 5th gen 4runners.



    Anyone who gives up their parking brake is an idiot

    10+ year old vehicles used a handle, cable, and turning mechanism on the caliper bore for a mechanical e-brake.
    That could be retrofitted.

    It's more reliable than a hydraulic line lock that can fail if pressure bleeds off after sitting.
    [​IMG]

    I wonder if there's a cheaper way to do it.
    That looks like a $30 bracket and a $30 1980's GM single piston front brake caliper. And lines of a certain length. Nothing special.

    Only thing unique about the setup is the bracket to hold the caliper. Most peoples sell that separately. I hope they do.
    If not, I wonder how hard it is to design and make. I'm sure it would have to be pretty precise to hold the caliper at the correct angle and position to function properly.
    Not something to just say fuck it, eyeball and freehand out of a scrap piece of metal.

    It could be they even bolted on the rotor, placed the caliper on it (with pads), and squeezed it closed. To then get an idea of the distance between the caliper, to where to mount it on the axle.
    Maybe at that point they carved a piece of wood to shape, then handed it off to a CNC shop to make in metal. At that point I'm sure they have a file of the dimensions saved to go off of.
    The opposite side is probably just a reverse of that image

    Are you stupid?
    3rd gen uses drums
     
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  19. Oct 5, 2021 at 10:04 PM
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    Yea I have manual trans soooo pretty important lol
     
  20. Oct 5, 2021 at 10:09 PM
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    parked manual trans is supposed to be left in 1st gear every time for the transmission to hold it as an additional backup
    when u see through a window manual car parked in neutral, means the driver is a n00b or forgot
    leaving it in a higher gear has the potential to cause jumped timing

    but an e-brake should still be used in addition to that
     

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