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Went new car shopping today.

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by RLMoody, Oct 9, 2021.

  1. Oct 9, 2021 at 2:01 PM
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    RLMoody

    RLMoody [OP] Well-Known Member

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    I left home with $30000 and came back home with $30000. We were wanting to look at Mazda CX5s, Toyota RAV4s and Honda CRVs. Spent several days researching the prices and what was on the lots with in 150 miles of my home. Not much was what I found. First off there was nothing under $30000. Second dealerships are not negotiating on prices. You pay what they want. I was trying to make a cash sale with no trade, financing or leasing. I was told that made no difference. I had no problem walking away.
    We did learn this is not the time to buy but tomorrow wont be any better. To off set the losses dealerships and manufacturers are only wanting to sell and stock high end cars and trucks. I was also told the SUVs we were looking at will only come as AWDs because there is more profit.
    I was considering buying another new car now to avoid the huge price increases a few years from now. I am 62 and figure this would be my last purchase seeing I also have a 17 Tacoma with 30K on it and a 13 Sienna with 63K. Those will be driven indefinitely..
    I restore old cars as a hobby and I told my wife don't laugh but you maybe driving around in a 6 cylinder Granada or Fairmont in the not to distant future. New car prices to me have reached the breaking point. I can afford them but cant justify it to myself that this is a disposable commodity. Its going to rust, depreciate, break down and you will never get back the money you paid. All it takes is one idiot to ruin it for you when they slam into it or key it or what ever. My wife said we will be putting around town on our E bikes by then or riding public transportation.
    It would be interesting to hear what others are running into out there.
     
  2. Oct 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM
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    Buck Henry

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    We are living in tough times brother!
     
  3. Oct 9, 2021 at 2:34 PM
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    Oh wow another used/new cars are expensive thread :bananadead:
     
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  4. Oct 9, 2021 at 2:35 PM
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    People still are not seeing it for what it is. Inflation. I’m old enough to have seen it before. When you print a pile of money, everything goes up. The chip shortage and pandemic factory stoppages are truly a side-show to the reality of inflation from the insane amount of money printed in the last year.
     
  5. Oct 9, 2021 at 2:37 PM
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    Superdave1.0

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    I used to spend 3-7 hours at a dealer. Negotiate $2-5k off the msrp. Just bought a new Honda Civic. Paid $2k over msrp. I felt like total crap but I NEEDED a car with good mpg. Terrible time to buy, great time to sell.
     
  6. Oct 9, 2021 at 2:38 PM
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    Never tell them you are paying cash. They figure if you got that kind of change you can afford to finance another 10k.

    While inflation is indeed a factor, the shortage of everything, from chips to seat covers to knobs and switches and everything else is the driving force behind these high prices. It's simple economics 101, supply vs demand.. or in this case demand vs supply.
     
  7. Oct 9, 2021 at 2:43 PM
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    Ruminator

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    Alright doll-face, c'mon and bore me!
    :eek: :smash:


    ...or if you were really trying to scare the crap out of her:

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    "How 'bout a nice K-car, dear?"
     
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  8. Oct 9, 2021 at 2:46 PM
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    Under development
    30 is the new 40
     
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    When everyone has money no one has money.
     
  10. Oct 9, 2021 at 3:10 PM
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    hiPSI

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    If you want a good "deal" from your lens you need to wait until 2023 when the supply chain finally has surplus, meaning more supply than demand.
    From my lens I traded a three year old vehicle recently and got more than I paid for it and even tho I paid MSRP on the new vehicle I got the vehicle and cash. I actually made money on a truck!
    Until then if you insist on paying cash, 2023 is best bet.
    I don't understand tho... you can make a lot of money with $30K in safe stocks yet you want to spend that $30K and lose money with it. I don't understand.
    In a loan for four years at today's rate, you could finance and let that $30K turn into $37K in four years.
     
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    it is funny when people talk about things normalizing in the future. this is the new normal. things will never be cheaper than they are now, prices for everything will continue to go up.
     
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    Prices right now are absurd. The KBB of my SIX year old Taco right now is higher than I paid new at full sticker. :eek:
     
  14. Oct 9, 2021 at 3:15 PM
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    This is complete and utter bullshit. Things are priced by supply and demand. Right now there is extreme demand for everything, and equally low supply.
     
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    BUCKLE UP! It makes it harder for Aliens to pull you out of your Truck.
    Oh, yes. Yes!
     
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    Don't agree. Have close friends in high places at manufacturers. Looking at 18+ months of shortages. Like someone else said, 2023 looking promising.
     
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    It depends really on what you are after and where you live. I’m in a big metropolitan area and while lot stock is hit or miss, if you want the thing other people are skipping over cause it doesnt have the luxury package or whatever, chances are better to get it and not pay over msrp.

    fwiw dealers around here weren’t wasting their time on negotiating price even pre Covid. They couldn’t care less if you walked in and walked out due to the shear number of customers.
     
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    going through that RIGHT NOW. Car dealers have the edge. fuckers. and im about to buy 2 cars outright.
     
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    Absolutely.

    like, does anyone actually believe that Toyota will finally get a shipment of chips in and Tacos will be $38K?
    :rofl:

    They very best scenario is they get a shipment of chips in and then hold prices at their present level for a while. Prices are not going down for the foreseeable future, if ever.
     
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    i may sell my ram 1500 single cab 5.7 hemi 78000 miles but it was my dads truck and runs awesome.
     

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