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Fumoto Fact(s) You Might Not Know

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by mquibble, Oct 12, 2021.

  1. Dec 5, 2021 at 7:09 PM
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    shotgunbilly420

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    Go fumoto valves go
     
  2. Dec 5, 2021 at 7:32 PM
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    Buying a machine to suck oil out is easier than screwing in a different oil drain plug?
     
  3. Dec 5, 2021 at 11:39 PM
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    I'm a fan of the Fumot, and I'd love to do the Baxter relocation, but sheesh it's pricey.
     
  4. Dec 6, 2021 at 2:37 PM
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    It is for me!

    Sure, the Tacoma is a truck and you can get under it, but I have multiple vehicles (Miata, Tacoma, Corolla, Promaster, Mercury). The Corolla and Miata require jacking the car up or using ramps, and the Mercury motor straight up requires the pump. Since I already have the pump, I use it on the Tacoma as well. It's also great for differentials, transfer cases, and transmissions. Plus zero mess every time and I can simply reverse the pump to fill containers for disposal.

    I probably don't save (that) much time, but it is somewhat quicker especially when I'm doing all of the vehicles at once. One could make the same argument for the valve; does it really save that much time...?

    Also, I'm not sure I'd call it a machine. It's large a hand pump with a long hose.

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  5. Dec 10, 2021 at 11:13 AM
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    Spiffy/shinylicious machine.

    That being said, since you still need to remove the oil filter housing/filter (after removing the front shield), does this save you much time with the Tacoma?
     
  6. Dec 10, 2021 at 11:35 AM
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    For the Tacoma; probably not now that I think about it (that PITA oil filter). It does speed up and make transferring the used oil for disposal a bit easier.
     
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  7. Dec 26, 2021 at 10:37 AM
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    How easy is accessing the valve with your skid plate mounted?
     
  8. Dec 26, 2021 at 10:40 AM
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    Extremely easy. No plate removal required. There’s an access hole in the Pro skid plate that permits me to connect a tube and open the valve for easy oil draining.
     
  9. Dec 26, 2021 at 10:48 AM
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    Thanks! I’m planning on picking a valve up as soon as my free oil changes from the dealer expire.
     
  10. Dec 26, 2021 at 11:25 AM
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    For anyone interested here is my NO TOOL oil change step by step.

    1. Fill a new filter with new oil to pre-soak the filter and soften up the media to prevent any possibility of a tear during initial priming of the filter. I purchase 7 quarts, use 6.6 quarts in the engine and use the leftover to pre-soak the filter media. The pre-soak oil is then transferred into my oil catch container just before new filter install.
    2. Drive front wheels onto some rhino ramps. Not required but it makes it a lot easier when you have older bones and some extra baggage around the waist.
    3. Using a creeper to easily float around underneath the vehicle remove the plastic locking device from the Fumoto.
    4. My Pro skid plate does not require removal. Not even the access plate for the since-removed filter cartridge element.
    5. Remove the plastic protective nipple from the Fumoto.
    6. Connect drain tube to the Fumoto valve.
    7. I use a polycarbonate water container to drain the oil directly into.
    8. Direct the tube into the polycarbonate opening.
    9. Open the Fumoto valve.
    10. Go up top and loosen the engine oil cap.
    11. Pull the engine oil dipstick slightly out.
    12. Loosen my spin-on oil filter located up top just to the passenger side of the radiator. Loosen just enough to release the vacuum and the oil in the filter will drain down through the nylon braided fuel lines.
    13. When oil is finished draining close the Fumoto valve.
    14. Remove the Fumoto drain tube from the valve. Cap both ends with clean protective caps.
    15. Wipe away any residual oil.
    16. Wipe-off and replace the plastic nipple to keep valve outlet relatively clean.
    17. Install the plastic protective valve lock back onto the Fumoto.
    18. Drain the new filter of the pre soaked oil into the polycarbonate container. I use this drained oil, changed every 5,000 miles, into another vehicle for use for another 3,000 miles.
    19. Place lid on the polycarbonate container. Oil to be used in one of my other vehicles.
    20. Fully remove the old oil filter.
    21. Lube the new oil filter gasket with some clean oil.
    22. Wipe clean the filter flange and surrounding area in preparation to receive the new oil filter.
    23. Install the new oil filter. No need to use tools or have gorilla strength. Hand tight is enough.
    24. Fill engine with new 0W-20 oil. My setup with the Baxter filter relocation kit and spin-on filter requires 6.6 quarts.
    25. Check oil level and take appropriate measures. I fill ever so slightly below the full line to allow expansion during engine and oil heat-up.
    26. If, and this happened only once to me, I overfill the engine the Fumoto valve it makes it extremely easy to remove any amount that I may need to in order to ensure the oil level is good.
    27. Wipe clean the oil cap gasket and it’s corresponding filler flange and reinstall the cap.
    28. Make sure you fully seat the dipstick back into the tube.
    29. Back the truck off the ramps.
    30. Record date and mileage for your records.
    31. Put away the non-tool tools to keep the wife happy.
    I guess you could argue the drain tube, polycarbonate container, creeper and the ramps are tools but this is certainly way fewer than most use.
     
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  11. Dec 26, 2021 at 12:09 PM
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  13. Dec 26, 2021 at 12:33 PM
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    Just make sure that’s the one you really want. I use the F133S. S for short nipple. Most people are concerned with the valve to begin with to then go ahead and get the long nipple. I’m not sure there’s a real need for the long nipple.
     
  14. Dec 26, 2021 at 12:35 PM
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  15. Dec 26, 2021 at 12:41 PM
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    You actually use the same extractor for not only different oil viscosities BUT gear fluid too?
     
  16. Dec 26, 2021 at 1:57 PM
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    You clean it out when using different fluids ;) besides, it’s not like I’m pumping oil BACK into the truck. The minuscule amount of possible contamination (if any) would have no consequences. FYI this is the same set up most shops/dealerships use… course some people change oil every 3k miles, so I could see how some could be OCD about this. To each their own, it’s my truck anyway.
     
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  17. Feb 4, 2022 at 7:29 PM
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    Marthafawker, I need to check this out! I hate the stupid filter set up on my taco!
     
  18. Feb 4, 2022 at 8:35 PM
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    Or you can just use brake clean when you are done using it. You'd be surprised what that different fluid can do when mixed. If a small amount of chemicals can alter the tranny/diff fluids, it can happen across the board. Not saying it's a "danger", just pointing out that you don't want access fluids mixing. Put it this way, when you add things to your oil, it shows on samples for the next 3 or 4 changes, maybe even more. But yea, it's a reservoir, lol.... if it's not going back in the truck then who cares. It all ends up in the waste management containers for recycled fluids together and who knows what else gets thrown in there too. Pretty sure they make organic body lotion from it now days or some shit.
     
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  19. Feb 4, 2022 at 9:49 PM
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    nice job
    I installed my first Fumoto drain valve in a 2002 Honda S2000, it made it possible to do oil changed front the top of the engine and that vehicle had over 175k miles on it when I sold it and never leaked. I have installed them on every vehicle I have owned, except my 2012 SLK350 and the ones my girlfriend has owned. I would estimate a total of over 500,000 to 700,000 miles combined. My ex-wife 1st gen Tacoma had one on for over 275,000 miles. I put one on my 2020 Tacoma at 5000 miles and it’s at 35000 miles now. My girlfriends 4Runner had a stripped oil pan bolt, I re-thread the hole and put a Fumoto that has done it’s job now for 50-75k miles, her daughter still drives it.

    On my Tacoma at Moab, I smashed up the skid plate and the Fumoto was just fine, it was banged up so bad that I now have a RCI skid plate.

    Great product. Also I have never used the little plastic piece.
     
  20. Feb 4, 2022 at 9:50 PM
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    i slide my hand from the side.
     

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