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TRD Pro vs TRD Offroad

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by ghat, Jan 7, 2022.

  1. Jan 9, 2022 at 8:31 AM
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    St0rm-Tr00per

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    I think AC would be the ideal configuration for the Pro … I believe it was an option for the original Tacoma TRD Pro (2015)
     
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  2. Jan 9, 2022 at 9:44 AM
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    Not really. Mine didn’t have anything I didn’t want except the carpet mats. In 12/20 I was able to get 11.3% off msrp. That meant a 10k difference between it and the pro. I think that gap has closed some here since then.
     
  3. Jan 9, 2022 at 9:45 AM
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    I love my carpet mats. I put in the rubber ones for winter, then the carpet for summer.
     
  4. Jan 9, 2022 at 9:47 AM
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    And when the two vehicles get sold the Pro will get $10k more than the OR despite the OR having thousands of dollars in mods that the OR owner will not recoup.
     
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    Maybe

    In order to recoup the resale you'd need to keep the Pro stock and replace worn out Pro specifc parts with the same.

    10k resale value over an OR is a bit of a stretch. I can see 1-3K tops unless you find a buyer that HAS to have an old Pro.

    One of the negatives about the high resale of all Tacomas, the slightly used are almost as much as brand new so it would need to be a pretty big price differential to skip a full warranty when buying new vs low mileage used.
     
  6. Jan 9, 2022 at 11:13 AM
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    From my previous experience I fully expect the Pro to actually be cheaper to own than the OR. The Pro where I am depreciates less than the OR due to how scarce they are. In 3-4 years when I go to sell it, it will have cost me less to own than the OR. Yes the initial cost is 10k higher, but the overall cost to own should be lower. Will find out for sure in a few years I guess. I'm assuming both stock other than tires.
     
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  7. Jan 9, 2022 at 11:16 AM
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    Aside from resale, what makes the pro cost less to own? They are identical trucks, the pro is just a offroad with some cosmetic upgrades, and better suspension.
     
  8. Jan 9, 2022 at 11:24 AM
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    Go with whatever is not marked up.
     
  9. Jan 9, 2022 at 11:30 AM
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    My response was to the person saying go OR and save 10k. Largest cost to own any vehicles is depreciation. If we assume equal costs to run it, operate it, within the warranty period my guess is the Pro will end up costing less over the time period I own it after I sell it, or worst case scenario about the same.

    Maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way but say I get the Pro for 50k or I get the OR for 40k. In 4 years when I sell both if I got 45k for the Pro and 35k for the OR, both truck would have cost me $5k in depreciation and I assume all other costs would be the same. So in essence I didn't save 10k both trucks cost me the same over 4 years.

    I know for sure that Pro will depreciate less though, so hence my comment above.
     
  10. Jan 9, 2022 at 11:38 AM
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    It’s a wash, other then paying more for the pro
     
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    You won’t get the money back from modding the OR so it’s likely NOT a wash- more like a bath.
     
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    Someone pulled this for a 2017 a while ago. Yes it's outdated but prices more or less would be the same for OEM parts. Labor would be more obviously. The only thing that is different now is the LED lights. They are much cheaper now to get as an option and as far as I know the only difference is the badging in the Pro lights vs the factory LED options. This is for the USA customers. In Canada where I am we can't even get LEDs as option on the OR or Sport for some reason.

    Yes aftermarket is cheaper/ potentially better parts if you don't get Rough Country type stuff, but for someone who won't mod the truck I think Pro has its advantages. I admit if you are going to lift/mod it getting a Pro is a waste.

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    I don't think the OR depreciates at a significantly higher rate than the Pro, I'll bet the percentage is same if condition and mileage is similar, the Pro will just be a little more in value over the stock OR. 10% depreciation on 50k vs 10% on 45k, you end up losing more on the higher priced truck.

    All Tacomas hold resale value pretty consistently and right now used cars and trucks are commanding a premium.

    Covid prices skews everything however when inventory is so scarce so it's hard to consider what we see now in prices the norm.
     
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    I like them too, but I am in dirt/mud daily. They just aren’t practical for me. They are sitting in my Husky mat box.
     
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    I agree, but for the Pro to actually cost me 10k more (over my ownership) this would have to happen:

    Buy Pro for $50k, sell it for $30k
    Buy OR for $40k, sell it for $30k

    These are just made up, but you get the picture. This is highly simplified and if you have to finance it all costs, change and also opportunity cost for 10k that's tied up over the 4 years isn't taken into account as someone pointed out below.
     
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    Just talking stock vs stock, your right you hardly ever get half of what you spend aftermarket
     
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    Don’t forget there is an opportunity cost. If I invested 10k 10 years ago, I could buy a brand new pro cash.
     
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    I actually think the pro would lose value faster. Generally pro = offroading hard, not grandma miles on the highway. So you can usually assume the truck will have a bit more extreme wear on it due to the nature of what its built for.

    The 10k difference is actually more saved due to interest on your loan, and loss in spending cash you have.
    40k for a offroad will cost you $3,242 in interest over 60 months and $721 per month
    50k for a pro will cost you $4,053 in interest over 60 months and $901 per month
    So right off the bat the pro costs $800 more just due to interest, now if you can swing $901 per month, then you can pay down the offroad faster for the same monthly cost as the pro and reduce your interest cost more. Or, take that $180 per month and invest it to get more money back.

    Then there comes insurance. This Im not 100% on, but from previous cars I have had, the insurance cost goes up the more "extreme" version of the car. So lets say now you have a extra $20-$30 in insurance a month for the life of the loan. May not sound like much, but it adds up pretty quick.


    In short, actual cost of ownership on the pro is a bit higher, but not due to anything mechanical, but rather just because it has a "pro" badge on it.
     
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    In that scenario you're depreciating the Pro at a significantly higher rate than the OR.

    50K for the Pro and if it drops 20% you're at 40k, you lost 10k. 40k OR at 20% drops it to 32k so you lose only 8k.

    The Pro ends up higher in resale but you still end up losing more money.
     
  20. Jan 9, 2022 at 11:57 AM
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    Well, for one thing…was the Pro model available 10 years ago? Also, the initial 10k would only be worth 30k now 10 years later. Hardly a good example.
     

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