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BassAckwards' AWD Turbo 2TR-FE

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by BassAckwards, May 19, 2017.

  1. Jan 22, 2022 at 10:59 AM
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    Here is how my table is set up for 550cc. I used MAF voltage offset. This table only works when you hook up the FPR to the manifold. You can see how little I need to pull away from the truck throughout the tune and my values aren't jumping around. Some of the values I leave the same in a large chunk because that is where closed loop is doing work. LT is +/-10%

    edit: I'm only tuned to about 12 psi. After that I just make the tune run fat until I crank up the boost and tune that section of the curve
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  2. Jan 22, 2022 at 11:05 AM
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    Thanks for this, im going to comb back through mine and start comparing
     
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  3. Jan 22, 2022 at 11:07 AM
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    Have fun. I need to work on my truck today. I have a desert trip next weekend.
     
  4. Jan 22, 2022 at 12:40 PM
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    That is basically what we just finished doing as well.
     
  5. Jan 22, 2022 at 2:05 PM
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  6. Jan 22, 2022 at 5:36 PM
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  7. Jan 22, 2022 at 6:45 PM
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    Idle looks nice and steady.

    Keep after it. :thumbsup:
     
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  8. Jan 22, 2022 at 6:54 PM
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    It's coming around a lot quicker than i anticipated, so that's a plus. I am having an issue now after the truck sits for an hr or more where it doesnt want to crank up right away, and acts like it has to reprime the fuel line. Never did this before the injector swap. Do you think this is a cause for concern? I have checked the fuel rail and around the injectors while it's running and i cant find any leaks and it doesnt smell of gas.
     
  9. Jan 22, 2022 at 6:57 PM
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    Most likely something to do with the tune and or the injectors. Be thorough and check over all connections still. Go for a drive tomorrow. Doesn't need to be long. Come back and look at every thing while warm.
     
  10. Jan 22, 2022 at 7:04 PM
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    Will do, i will give everything another check tmrw. It's starting to seem to me like the injectors are bleeding down on the inside after shut down though. I was considering adding a check valve to my fuel line to see if that helps as i have an extra laying one laying around and that'd be pretty easy. Still i'd like to figure out the issue though
     
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  11. Jan 22, 2022 at 7:46 PM
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    Started doing some research for the o-rings to fit on the urd fuel rail tap & fuel pressure damper as i had to reuse my old ones yesterday. Then i realized that i had just what i needed from when i ordered the wrong thing once before while trying to order injector o-rings. Never really knew what they were for until tonight lol.

    Im gonna swap these out tomorrow for good measure, new fuel filter, and check valve and hopefully itll be smooth sailing from there with start ups after sitting for extended periods

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  12. Jan 22, 2022 at 10:51 PM
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    Anyone look at these videos? Any good info you can used? Seems to make common sense but I don’t know crap.

    https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/learntotune

    My Harbor Freight tool collection consist of various 2x4’s, 2 cinder blocks, floor stand, 1.5 ton racing floor-jack, 3 screw drivers (1 broken I use for my pry-bar), pair of pliers & channel locks, 2 adjustable wrenches, pipe wrench for a last resort, a hammer & BFH, baling wire & gorilla tape. Oh, and some miscellaneous tools I found on the ground while out riding my bicycle. If I can’t fix it with these tools it’s an electrical issue…

    :popcorn:
     
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  13. Jan 23, 2022 at 7:43 AM
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  14. Jan 23, 2022 at 3:10 PM
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    Lol what more does one need? My horrible freight engine crane has been pretty solid for me. I am sure there are lots of good videos with info on tuning, but ive been just taking it little by little to try and get an understanding of how it all works. That and the resident experts on here have been really helpful to answer questions ive had
     
  15. Jan 23, 2022 at 3:17 PM
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    Swapped out all the o-rings on the fpr, damper, and urd fuel rail tap today. also added a check valve to the fuel line post-filter, changed the fuel filter, and upgraded the intake piping clamps to the t-bolt style clampco brand ones. After swapping everything earlier, the truck still had a prolonged crank/start, so i went in and added a little fuel on the primaries in the 200 and 400 rpm cells in the -24 to -10in/hg range. We will see if it that helps some. There are definitely no fuel leaks in the engine bay, i am confident of that. Im fairly sure i have it narrowed down to tune or injectors now

    old urd o-ring was tired
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  16. Jan 24, 2022 at 4:47 AM
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    Well, the truck fired right up after sitting overnight, so we'll see if the prolonged starts become an intermittent issue, or if it is indeed tune related. Looking promising though! It has fired right up the past few times since adding fuel down low. Only time will tell though. Yall make it a great week! :D
     
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  17. Jan 27, 2022 at 10:38 AM
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    At a way to keep after it.
     
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    It's definitely been a challenge, but it's starting to come around. The hard starts have gone away for the most part, so i'm thinking it's tune related. It's much better now, but still cranks for a little while sometimes. Although if i give it some gas when it's doing this it seems to fire right up. The OEM ecu though, on the other hand, is definitely unhappy. I think im gonna start saving for a Haltech just due to that and the fact that you have to compromise as far as AFRs go in different gears w/ the Map3. Right now AFRs are pretty good in 2nd and 3rd gears, but 4th is pig rich anything over 4-5lbs so it's kinda frustrating at times. That and the fact the the stock ecu is a hater, it's making me consider other options.
     
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  19. Jan 27, 2022 at 6:04 PM
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    In other news related to your future mods. We encountered a serious issue with the other truck. Started smoking regularly.

    Compression test proved all spark plugs were clean and dry. Compression numbers good.

    Hmm. What could be the cause? Pulled the pcv hose off from in front of the turbo, as well as the back of the valve cover. Smoke slowly dissipated.

    Ok. Turbo seals aren't leaking.

    Instantly, the idea that the routing wasn't correct, was true. So we did a thing.

    Threw on my olde catch can, and drilled out the pcv valve. Valve cover is no longer connected with any intake routing.

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    Welded the port on the bend. Routed hoses. Made the outlet of the can, run downward by the fender.

    Problem resolved, and truck is actually running even stronger than before! Way better!

    Newer spark plugs definitely helped too. ;)
     
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  20. Jan 27, 2022 at 6:05 PM
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    Now you are better prepared. :hattip:
     
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