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Fitting 35’s with minimal trimming NOW ADDING LONG TRAVEL AND 934 CV’s

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by 81Trekker, Aug 25, 2019.

  1. Jan 26, 2022 at 3:32 AM
    ovrlndkull

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    The biggest downside to exo cages is getting enough triangulation so they don't just collapse on a hard roll. They don't always protect the body that well. I'm not a fan on larger cab vehicles. On the smaller single cabs it's almost like an internal. There's a father daughter WE rock team I follow and the daughter flopped down a 20ft drop. The exocage on their XJ buckled like the knees of a politician because they didn't have enough triangulation to prevent the shear movement. Girl got lucky she didn't get hurt. A cage of any sort IMO it's first job is protecting the passengers if it can't do that well all you're doing is adding a bunch of weight for some body sliders. Not worth it to me.
     
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  2. Jan 26, 2022 at 4:56 AM
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    If you play your cards right on an exo you can make them just as tough as any interior cage. The only thing you really can't do is door bars. It all has to do with how they are built. Any poorly designed cage is going to fail. But I will agree, it would be a challenge to get enough triangulation to survive a super hard flop.

    IMO lots comes down to tube diameter and wall thickness. Many don't take into consideration how heavy some of these rigs are. And that's a huge deal.
     
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  3. Jan 26, 2022 at 7:36 AM
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    This one?

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  4. Jan 26, 2022 at 9:12 AM
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    That's cuz rclt only gets around 10" of travel. It's a bit of a joke. Also not sure why anybody would spend all this time and money installing a high performance suspension, then put in cheap shocks that can't even be rebuilt or tuned. What a waste of time.

    After watching some of the video, for some reason I had it in my mind he was using 6112s. But he's actually using 8112, which are good shocks, but they have specifics bump, ride, and extension zones that probably won't work with a set up other than oe.
     
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  5. Jan 26, 2022 at 9:23 AM
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    Tube Dia and wall thickness only get you so far when you're missing shear strength. Exo cages are huge compromises for safety. That's the main point of a cage.
     
  6. Jan 26, 2022 at 10:58 AM
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    LOL it seriously only pulls around 10"? My Mid travel probably pulls that. Imagine spending that kind of money for zero gains.
     
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    you can put ORI's on a totally stock truck and get that...
     
  8. Jan 26, 2022 at 11:45 AM
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    My mind is absolutely blown that people are dumping 10k into that BS.... He must have some marketing skills or something.
     
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  9. Jan 26, 2022 at 2:10 PM
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    Nope. Their PR is terrible.
     
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  10. Jan 26, 2022 at 2:11 PM
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    Has anyone confirmed that’s all the kit will pull? Id be interested to see some #s
     
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  11. Jan 26, 2022 at 2:12 PM
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    Ask one of the guys in the RCLT thread, like @RokMgmt
     
  12. Jan 26, 2022 at 2:18 PM
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    I think it’s more a running joke because you have to limit uptravel so much to keep big tires out of the inner fender.
     
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    I fell for it. :anonymous::facepalm:
     
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    Well I just got a big box of goodies from JD. Almost done collecting parts. Going to order a new core support and a few other things then it'll be some shop time getting it all put on and a new bumper built.
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Jan 26, 2022 at 2:28 PM
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    Not as bad as the guys that fell for spending that much on a lot of hurry up and wait with almost negligible advantage over the kit JD is making.
     
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    I can tell you right now with 37’s if I went 2” forward my tires would be in my headlights. It’s close as it is 1” forward.
     
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    Oh I believe it. There’s no getting around having to cut something once you get into 35”+ territory. The fender wells are only so big.
     
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  18. Jan 26, 2022 at 4:03 PM
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    Yup. So regardless that kit is going to make you bump out sooner than going 1” forward. Absolutely no way around it. You can see here how much I had to cut out of the core support. People are fools falling for that shit.

    08A00115-E92F-4E20-A29E-C3207A2F3E2A.jpg
     
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  19. Jan 26, 2022 at 4:39 PM
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    I’d be way more concerned about paying $7k for a mild steel kit that uses urethane bushings.

    As someone who works with metal everyday I cant stress enough on the strength of cromoly when compared to mild steel
     
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  20. Jan 26, 2022 at 4:52 PM
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    Especially when it comes to that big area under the CV is just a 3/16" plate no boxing done there to achieve that clearance. After seeing the kit in person it's not worth the hype. I think it's a decent starting point for LT specifically for crawling but it's got a good bit of work to make it where it's worth that money.
     

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