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1 TPMS needs replacement, best options?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by cropduster78, Feb 9, 2022.

  1. Feb 9, 2022 at 9:09 PM
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    GrizzledBastard

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    The Autel TM508 does OBDII. That's how I was able to clone the dead OEM sensor. I just read it from the ECU and copied where all were positioned. I think it would be crazy to not get that capability.

    I'll mention something sort of whack about multiple tire sets sharing sensor programming. These OEM sensors were still on my OEM wheels in the boxes and stacked in my garage. Every time I'd pull into the driveway, one at a time my sensor reading on the dash would go to zero, one wheel at a time and then the TPMS light would come on. Even at 30'+, the truck would hit on the signal from the old sensors! As soon as I start and roll out of the driveway, they immediately come back on with proper inflation info. Today, I finally pulled them out of the wheels and threw them into one of those RFID bags to keep the signal from emitting. It STILL picked one or two up so that tells me those bags are total BS. I just threw the bag in my office so now it's good.
     
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  2. Feb 9, 2022 at 9:57 PM
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    Is the difference between the TS408 and TS508 just less features? Are the sensors programed in the tire or out of the tire?
     
  3. Feb 10, 2022 at 4:25 AM
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    I'll put a sticker or piece of black tape over the warning light before I spend a dime on air pressure sensors.
     
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    Just had one replaced at Discount Tire and it was $70 and some change.
     
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  5. Feb 10, 2022 at 7:02 AM
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    Thanks for all the good recommendations....

    I will try the local tire route and get pricing next, or tell my dealer to do something for me price wise.

    This sensor in question was cracked 30k miles ago and the tire shop I dealt with made it work with some silicone and a zip tie.:rofl:

    Then of course I had the dealer put on some tires a few weeks back and they couldn't make it work for me shocker right lol.

    I get it with liability these days but either way I need it fixed. It's fucking annoying seeing any light on.

    Have a good one....:rasta:
     
  6. Jan 11, 2024 at 12:16 PM
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    The TPMS light was blinking on my 7 year old 2017 Tacoma and I asked Toyota how much it would cost to put a new set in. They said it would be over $600!! Forget that! I started looking and researching and brought an Autel TS508WF kit with 8 Sensors and 4 metal stem valves. It was about $500 after tax but I felt I could figure it out. I found out the F/R and R/R was not responding so I changed them with the Autel MX sensors in the kit. The hard part was breaking the bead on the wheel/tires. Tried a couple of ways but it wouldn't break, so I took them to Discount Tire and they were nice and did them both in less than a minute. Before I mounted the wheels I programed the sensors that I installed and then did a position relearn. Every thing is back to normal now. With 6 more sensors left and my other Tacoma being a 2023, I am set for several years. I got the kit at Advanced Auto.
     
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    Smart move! Welcome to the "Dark Side" of tire pressure monitoring! :rofl:
     
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    Take a look at the Autel cloneable sensors.
     
  9. Jan 14, 2024 at 8:29 PM
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    Did you not notice the entire thread was about Autel cloneable sensors? o_O:rofl:;)
     
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    I did notice that. But wanted to make OP aware that there are several options to choose from.
     
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    Another vote for the Autel. I bought 4 new sensors and the 508 off Amazon. I cloned the new ones to match my stock units, and put them in my winter wheel set. Super easy, I just reset TPMS when I swap wheels and it picks them up in their new positions.
     
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    I'm having a hard time justifying the math on this one, to be honest.

    My sensors are starting to fizzle after 5.5 years, 70k miles.

    Option A, Autel unit plus sensors, currently $350 for the initial bundle, then $120 for every set thereafter.

    Option B, take it to discount tire and have them do it for 60 bucks per, $240. Plus, you know, new tires and stuff.

    Going by that, the break even point happens after 8 sensors changed. The Autel wins after sensor number nine. That's assuming that the programmer has 15+ years of life in it, which is reasonable for those that take care of their tools. This also assumes that one has the free space to store a tool that's used once every five years - that's slightly less reasonable.


    I don't know. It's so debatable that I'm going to go with bird-in-hand and have the tire shop do it. Maybe I'll revisit it in another 5 or so years.
     
  13. Jan 16, 2024 at 4:49 AM
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    TPMS issues with Toyota's are particularly difficult to fix, compared to other brands. TPMS monitors have a lifespan of 8-10 years (ideally) and your '17 likely has sensors approaching nine years old. TPMS is a critically important safety feature and if my truck required it I'd replace all FIVE sensors in one operation. TPMS issues are one service in which a Toyota technician would be enormously helpful, given the acknowledged issues with Toyota TPMS systems.

    This guy explains it well, he is my go-to for Toyota info.
     
  14. Jan 16, 2024 at 5:03 AM
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    I just use my eyeballs to look at my tires to see if they’re flat. If I’m unsure, I’ll check them with a pressure gauge. Cost is like a few $ for a lifetime. It’s easy to ignore the light on the dash.
     
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    The problem with OEM sensors from Toyota is that the shelf life is also about ten years or so. So I don't think Toyota is keeping them on the shelf very long and they probably have to ask the OEM suppliers to make new ones every now and then. The technology behind the TPMS sensors keep changing so they become obsolete very quickly.

    When my sensors started going out on my 2012 Tacoma, I had some NOS OEM ones that the factory used (the Pacific brand, same p/n) from that year and those were also dead as well despite never being installed or used. So I just ended up getting some aftermarket ones and call it a day.
     

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