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coil pac bolt striped

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by choopes, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. Feb 11, 2022 at 10:02 AM
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    choopes

    choopes [OP] Well-Known Member

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    That aluminum sure is soft. I was worried about stripping it, so I looked up the torque specs. 7 foot lbs. Not much. The dreaded feeling of the bolt going from hard to turn to loose, that means a strip, I never got to 7 foot lbs. That or my new torque wrench is wrong. I did the other 4 with the 2 finger tighten. When it feels snug, time to quit. I guess there is a hilicoil, or tap job in my future. Besides keeping moisture out, is this an electrical connection? Ground to the coil pac maybe? What is a good solution? Has anyone ran into this with a 2.4 before?
     
  2. Feb 11, 2022 at 10:18 AM
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    Where did you look up the torque spec? I didn't see the 2.4 coil spec in the FSM I have. At least for the 3.4l it's not 7 ft lbs. It's 69 inch lbs (5.75 ft lbs). That still seems high to me. Stick with the finger tight, plus a small nudge with the wrench.
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    Either way, what's done is done.

    I would assume a Helicoil is going to be your best bet.
     
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  3. Feb 11, 2022 at 1:13 PM
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    69 inch pounds / 12 inches per foot = 5.75 ft pounds

    What is the range on your torque wrench? They aren’t accurate at the edges of their ranges.
     
  4. Feb 11, 2022 at 1:37 PM
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    Torque wrenches come in various ranges, so you really gotta pay attention to the details on the torque specs.

    The small ones (like 1/4" drive) are usually in inch lbs. The one I have is 20-200 in lbs.
    Mid sized ones are usually in the 10-80 ft lbs.
    And there are mega ones that can go up to 250 ft lbs.
     
  5. Feb 11, 2022 at 1:41 PM
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    I would buy a cutter bolt one size up and call it a day.

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    Most torque wrenches are most accurate in the upper 3/4 of their range. I know they say 10-100 or whatever but if I'm looking at the teens in ft/lbs, I use my 30-250 in/lb wrench. Also, if it isn't a critical bolt I'll fudge down a bit and consider a very small dab of blue Loctite. I hate stripped/broken bolts...
     
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  7. Feb 11, 2022 at 6:33 PM
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    Yeah, helicoil it, but these just need to be held in place. Get creative especially if you don't get drastic to make the helicoil option unavailable down the road.
     
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    They just hold the coil down. One screw, no big deal. Just snug them up. Don't overthink it. If even a few threads catch I wouldn't worry about it. They're usually snug as they are.
     
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    There are a few tricks you can try.

    1. Get a longer bolt and see if it will catch the clean threads further in.

    2. Take a few strand of copper from a wire and stuff it along the length then screw it in. Has to be redone everytime it is removed.

    3. And lastly, helicoil.


    I use a CDI 0-300 inch pound torque wrench for sensitive bolts...none of those made in china ones. Not worth the frustration. Good luck.
     
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  10. Feb 12, 2022 at 5:32 AM
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    The torque wrench I have is pretty big. 1/2" drive and 18" handle. Maybe its not accurate at low ranges. Maybe I need to look into a small one. Another option would be to re-tap the thread without increasing the size, then get the next size longer. Like 1/4" longer it it will fit. When all is done I need to keep moisture out and make a solid connection. Still unclear if the electrical connection needs a chassis ground at that bolt for the coil pack to perform accurately.
     
  11. Feb 12, 2022 at 7:26 AM
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    The valve cover is aluminum, not sure on how much it's grounding the coil pack.
     
  12. Feb 12, 2022 at 8:45 AM
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    Remains to be seen I bought the tires and wheels the rest came along
    I had to repair one of those that cycled through .

    I cheated silicone for the win as a temp fix That is still working years later..

    You can use a piece of round stock in the hole with silicone . Silicone the bottom of the coil pack set in place let it cure.

    If you later need to clean things out and use a thread replacement simple clean up.

    Since the patents expired on Heli-Coil many brands out there on the market.
     

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