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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Mar 19, 2022 at 4:50 PM
    Dayman Karate

    Dayman Karate Ruffling feathers and turning eagles into vultures

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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/daymans-karate-class-but-you-wont-learn-nothin-4-link-lt-and-previous-iterations.755134/
    Shit that might solve a lot of the problems actually…
     
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  2. Mar 19, 2022 at 4:51 PM
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    Horrible idea, you won’t have the tongue weight needed and the trailer will be wagging like a dog. The only thing I’d put on a trailer backwards is a rear engine buggy
     
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  3. Mar 19, 2022 at 5:00 PM
    Dayman Karate

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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/daymans-karate-class-but-you-wont-learn-nothin-4-link-lt-and-previous-iterations.755134/
    If the weight is distributed on the trailer how it is now it should give me better tie down options for the rear axle at least. Probably shittier aerodynamics. I don’t know. I feel rushed to get it going for the trip three hours away with my family in the truck too and I’m not confident in it yet. May have to take some time with it.
     
  4. Mar 19, 2022 at 5:01 PM
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    It’s worth giving it a shot. And depending just how much you want to go down the rabbit hole, there are scales you can use to measure tongue weight. It should be ~10%-13% of your load, so in your case like 700 lbs. Could be handy to see it backwards truck is viable and just dialing everything in in general.

    Sherline LM 2000 - Trailer Tongue Weight Scale 2000lb https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007REK28M
     
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  5. Mar 19, 2022 at 5:31 PM
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  6. Mar 19, 2022 at 5:52 PM
    Dayman Karate

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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/daymans-karate-class-but-you-wont-learn-nothin-4-link-lt-and-previous-iterations.755134/
    The more I look at it loading it backwards and keeping the same weight distribution on the trailer would likely put the rear axle over the front of the trailer. Just guessing that the center of mass is around the bell housing and rotating 180 degrees about that point.
     
  7. Mar 19, 2022 at 7:15 PM
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    with no brake controller the trailer brakes won’t do anything.
     
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  8. Mar 19, 2022 at 7:43 PM
    Dayman Karate

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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/daymans-karate-class-but-you-wont-learn-nothin-4-link-lt-and-previous-iterations.755134/
    Yeah the more I dig into it that seems to be correct. I was under the impression I just had on/off with no variability, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Truck stops it pretty damn good without them now that I know, but I was not very impressed when I thought I was having both axles brake, too :rofl:

    I’ve got an OEM brake controller coming and can program it with Forscan pretty easily.
     
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  9. Mar 19, 2022 at 7:45 PM
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    thought I read something else for a second :anonymous::anonymous::anonymous:
     
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  10. Mar 19, 2022 at 7:48 PM
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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/daymans-karate-class-but-you-wont-learn-nothin-4-link-lt-and-previous-iterations.755134/
    Yeah I took a double look first time I saw it too haha since it’s freeware/community tech shit I’m guessing it was on purpose.
     
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    Let the strap rest against the tires. Mine does on the rear. Doesn’t hurt anything. You could get fancy and order the weld on ratchet strap mounts for the axle tube but I can’t justify the price for what they are. Get a good set of straps with built in rings that hook back on themselves (I like Mac straps) and you can load and unload in minutes.

    I can pull my trailer from the backyard and be hooked and loaded in about 30 minutes and that’s with shuffling vehicles around. Loading and unloading the crawler takes less than 5 minutes now. Takes longer to roll the straps up nicely than to get it on/off the trailer. Just find a system and the sweet spot on the trailer for parking.
     
  12. Mar 20, 2022 at 9:49 AM
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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/daymans-karate-class-but-you-wont-learn-nothin-4-link-lt-and-previous-iterations.755134/
    Welded on some new d rings in more ideal locations and added a toolbox. Got an OEM brake controller and a WD hitch on the way. Should be Gucci now.
    618F6C32-9BA1-4179-998C-F88EB207ACED.jpg
     
  13. Mar 20, 2022 at 11:25 AM
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    Pushing the limits of our tow capacity?? 18' trailer with two 3500lbs rated axles. My dad's friend would sell it to me for $1500

    IMG_20220320_122454.jpg

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    Only way to know for sure is to weigh the jeep and compare that to the trailers GVWR and get the total combined weight.
     
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  15. Mar 20, 2022 at 12:01 PM
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    How much does it weigh that's not a horrible price and for hauling that XJ it would be good.
     
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    Trying to find out. Trailer is down in TX and I'm in CO, having to play phone tree to get info
     
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    That being a short trailer is advantageous for getting around tight areas. My guess is it probably weighs around 1000 give or take. You can always upgrade the axles. If it was a home built trailer then the Gross weight max is typically what the max of the axles are. 7k is a decent trailer for the xj and you can always upgrade axles if you absolutely needed/wanted to. That XJ you posted probably weighs a little over 4k mine is up around the mid 4s they are lighter than tacomas which is a plus.
     
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  18. Mar 20, 2022 at 1:45 PM
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    That's true. It is shortish though. IIRC my old lowboy race car trailer was under 1500 but it was open in the middle 1/2 the trailer. It was a steel deck 18 footer as well.
     
  19. Mar 20, 2022 at 4:18 PM
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    That’s what my trailer is. Frame is rated for 5k axles though and they will get upgraded at some point. Brakes only on the rear axle right now.

    1500 is a good deal for a steel deck trailer. I paid 1200 for mine 5 years ago and it needed a ton of work to include a deck
     
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    Got a number of around 2200lbs. It's a good deal and I'll keep it on the backburner. Gotta buy the jeep first! Lol. Meeting with seller this weekend. Engine is toast but we're working out something, maybe a forged stroker

    Also trailer bed is 83" wide. Outside fender 8'6". 18ft long.

    The old man selling it said he pulled a car on it with his Chevy Colorado
     
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