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Clutch doesn’t seem to slow engine…

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Wyofishtaco22, May 28, 2022.

  1. May 30, 2022 at 7:20 AM
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    INSAYN

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    I want to say that when various manufactures changed their throttle control from cable to wire, there was an opportunity to add rev hang as needed for some kind of optimization.

    You just drive it enough to completely forget it is even there.

    On the plus side, I have found that it came in handy when quick shifting in the soft sand. I don't lose the engine RPM between shifts as I normally would without it.
     
  2. May 30, 2022 at 9:07 AM
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    I don't understand the clutch accumulator hate. I have zero issues making the clutch do what I want even in stressful starts on 15-30 degrees slopes with a tree 1 foot behind me. I see it as something that saves wear and tear on my drive train when I mess up.

    By far my biggest complaint about the clutch is the severe stickiness when the temps get below 0F. It's almost undriveable when you have to wait 0.5-1s for the clutch peddle to return to the up position.
     
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  3. May 30, 2022 at 10:38 AM
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    I think there is significant variation in how much impact these accumulators have. Your accumulator might not be doing much of anything.

    I had no consistent "bite" point and would get a lot of chatter at clutch engagement. Getting rid of the accumulator eliminated this immediately and it drives like any other hydraulic line manual now. I seriously would have sold the truck if I couldn't get rid of the accumulator. It was that bad.
     
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  4. May 30, 2022 at 12:01 PM
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    No offensive, but you come across as self righteous.
     
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  5. May 30, 2022 at 2:12 PM
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    So, I'm a Fudd, blissfully ignorant and what else now?

    There is no reason for me do to either a tune, or the adm regardless of my wrenching ability.
    My clutch has never felt anything like you describe.

    There's really only two reasons why anyone peforms either or both changes to their truck.
    You either have symptoms that dictate a change is needed, or you are just following the crowd for social acceptance.
    If you fall into either or both reasons for either of these mods and now your truck performs to your liking, then good for you, problem solved.

    I fall into neither of these categories, for either mod.
    Rev hang is not clutch related, and part of how this truck works. Has'nt been a negative issue to me, as I have mostly forgotten about it since getting used to it in the first few months of ownership.

    As for Toyotas being viewed as the pinnacle of vehicles, I certainly wouldn't go out on a limb and preach that myself.
    I have owned three Toyota trucks, two Corollas, and a Rav4 now, and feel that they hold their own just fine against any other brand vehicle I've owned over the past 35 years of driving. Out of the 30+ cars/trucks I've owned only a handful have been auto trans. I just prefer manual trans.

    With that, I can honestly say that my 3rd Gen has been the smoothest shifting, best clutch feel out of all of them. Hands down!

    If you don't feel that way about your 3rd Gen Taco, then that's truely unfortunate. You clearly didn't get a truck built on a "Wednesday before lunch".

    As many 3rd Gen Tacomas that are out there, the odds are good that there will be a solid mix of trucks with issues big or small. I highly doubt anyone gets one that is absolutely perfect in every way.
     
  6. May 30, 2022 at 2:22 PM
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    My bathroom light used to flicker when I turn it on each time. Damn thing!
    I did a mod one day that fixed it.

    If you don't go do this mod to your bathroom light, then you are missing out.

    Should I join the Lowe's Depot DIY home repair forum and push my personal fix on those poor unsuspecting souls?
     
  7. May 30, 2022 at 2:41 PM
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    I don't follow your logic. :crazy:
     
  8. May 30, 2022 at 2:42 PM
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    You guys are doing it all wrong. You're supposed to pick on the idiots with the automatics, not each other.
     
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  9. May 30, 2022 at 2:45 PM
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    We're getting there.


    Very very slowly.

    :thumbsup:
     
  10. May 30, 2022 at 2:47 PM
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    I don't have much of a choice here. :boink:
     
  11. May 30, 2022 at 3:07 PM
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    Early on in the ownership of my M/T Taco I was on an on-ramp entering an expressway, I was in 3rd gear at about 2,200 rpm and needing to speed up to highway speed, I gave it some throttle and the engine bogged down with little in the way of acceleration. I then quickly down shifted into 2nd gear and stomped on the throttle. The truck responded with the needed acceleration to prevent cutting someone off as I merged onto the highway.

    After that I started driving around town at higher rpm in order to stay closer to the peak power band, mostly in 2nd gear at 3,000rpm and shifting to 3rd gear at 3,500 rpm. This gave me better, quicker throttle response.

    I then got a Coyoza ecu tune and this gave me the throttle response that I was looking for at 2,000 rpm and a greater ability to drive around town in 3rd gear at lower rpm than before I got the tune and still have the desired throttle response instead of staying in 2rd gear and driving at higher rpm.
     
  12. May 30, 2022 at 3:34 PM
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    My biggest complaint about the accumulator, was that I could never rev match properly. I thought I forgot how to drive MT. Otherwise with general driving it was fine IMO.

    Now with it off, most of the time my rev matching bang on.

    Actually another thing I also didn’t like was that it shuddered starting uphills, without it no more shudder. I really think the clutch will wear faster with the accumulator. They made vehicles without this stupid thing so why add it now. I do think it’s completely useless for experienced MT drivers.
     
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  13. May 30, 2022 at 9:45 PM
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    I am not aware of the effects of the clutch accumulator when driving my 2019 Tacoma but I do notice that the clutch pedal requires way less travel to engage the clutch compared to my 1993 MR2.
     

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