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4x4 tight turns on gravel

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by lt.kerrnal, Jun 10, 2022.

  1. Jun 10, 2022 at 5:48 PM
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    lt.kerrnal

    lt.kerrnal [OP] New Member

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    Hello all
    I am experiencing some odd feelings while making tight turns in 4x4. I only engage the 4x4 on gravel roads and my extremely steep tight switch backed driveway (no where CO). When turning around the switchbacks in 4x4 I feel resistance and like the tires are moving laterally. Is this normal?
     
  2. Jun 10, 2022 at 5:50 PM
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    musicisevil

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    Definitely. First 4x4? It’s the driveline binding because the front wheels are moving at different speeds than the rear wheels. Don’t try it on dry pavement
     
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  3. Jun 10, 2022 at 5:55 PM
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    Thanks for the response. i assume this will cause normal wear and isnt something i am doing wrong to prematurely wear my truck.

    Edited for 4x4 not 4wd
     
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  4. Jun 10, 2022 at 6:00 PM
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    I’m sure someone more knowledgeable than me will have better responses/a better explanation of what is happening, but on gravel it’s not something I would worry about personally. As long as the front wheels can slip and skip without a ton of resistance (like dry pavement of a parking lot) it alleviates the bind.
    In a perfect world you’d only ever use 4x4 when traveling in a straight line, but I lived in the mountains and drove up a driveway with 3 tight switchbacks for 10+ years, and my first gen never had any issues. Try and take the corner as wide as you can and power through it
     
  5. Jun 10, 2022 at 6:14 PM
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    Marshall R

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    Even off road traction can be good enough to cause binding in 4X4. It will bind worse in reverse than going forward. If you feel resistance disengage 4X4 temporarily. If it's binding you don't need 4X4.

    Anytime there is any binding in the drivetrain you are over stressing components and will cause premature parts failure. But if kept to a minimum you should get a lot of life out of them. It is when people drive on surfaces with good traction by design while 4X4 is engaged that break stuff.
     
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  6. Jun 10, 2022 at 6:19 PM
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    agreed, if your binding like that you probably shouldnt be in 4x4.
     
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  7. Jun 10, 2022 at 6:21 PM
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    As others have said, if you feel the binding you have lots of traction and could really be in 2WD. On tight switchbacks, or when parking, off-road, I switch into 2WD, if I have lots of traction to avoid the binding.
     
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  8. Jun 10, 2022 at 6:24 PM
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    This will even happen in snow, and is very normal. Avoid tight turns in 4wd, or avoid 4wd on tight turns.
     
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  9. Jun 10, 2022 at 6:35 PM
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    Normal. Your front and rear axles are locked together and must turn at the same speed, but the can’t when you are turning. On surfaces like gravel it’s an annoyance but not something to be super worried about. Use 4wd when you really need it. Gravel roads unless minimum maintenance and water soaked don’t count, but can be fun
     
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    That's the same thing
     
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    But is it though? One is four wheel drive and the other is a square 4” piece of lumber
     
  12. Jun 10, 2022 at 7:01 PM
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    But is it though? Or is it a square 3.5"x3.5" piece of lumber? Wild
     
  13. Jun 10, 2022 at 7:02 PM
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    Hit me with a 4x2. :D
     
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    Gawd damn
     
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  15. Jun 10, 2022 at 7:13 PM
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    Thanks for the replies. yall rock. Just tryin to make my baby last as long as possible
     
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    Have you ever drove at Moab?
    It has good traction. It will bind. It needs 4wd. It will not break.
     
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    This is about the 4th or 5th time I’ve said this:

    “Marshall R bought a 4x4 and is afraid to use it.”
     
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    Lol.
    Geezus. When are people going to realize that making turns with full traction won't break shit?
    And please... Don't show me that one failed transfer case of a Jeep that drove thousands of miles locked in 4 low. It deserves to break.
     
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    I don’t often agree with you but in this case all I gotta say is “Amen Brother.”
     
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    I make a habit while in 4WD not to make too tight of turns period... i've even experienced binding making tight turns on dry snow.
     
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