1st/Reverse Tolerance '22 TRD OR MT

I have about 1500 miles on my '22 TRD OR and I am finding that the tolerance is pretty tight between 1st gear and reverse. I have a few times, shifted into reverse instead of first, and I swear I'm not pulling it over far enough to get into reverse. Does anyone else have this problem, or are there any adjustments that can be made?

Not sure if explaining the tolerance as 'tight' is correct, but hopefully you get what I mean.

 

No issues with mine.

There should be a significant amount of resistance to putting it in reverse. Use minimal effort to go to first. Lightly pull left to the resistance point then up. Get a feel for it by using an open hand, as in don't even grasp the shift knob.

 

It's a significant difference in pressure. The only time I really get beyond the reverse gate is if I'm downshifting semi-aggressively into second, and then of course it doesn't move when trying to pull the stick towards second.

 

I can tell you that the Core shifter completely makes this a non-issue.
If you're interested, read this...Core-Shifter for 3rd Gen V6 | Tacoma World

 

The only time that I had issues was when my Taco was new and I happened to leave it in Reverse when I shut it off. It took some muscle memory to verify Neutral then 1st gear and life was good.


For your issue, if you slap it left, Reverse is easy to accidentally select. Just ease it left through the pattern. No need for jamming gears as the shifts in the Taco are slower anyway.

 

You must be slapping the shifter too had and it goes past the reverse detention. You only need gently pressure to line up 1st gear.

 

this is a proper solution, especially if you like a tight mechanical feel.

 

The only times I’ve had problems on my 2021 are when I was backing a boat down the boat ramp, tiny boat so I couldn’t see it and I kept ending up in jackknife positions. Out of frustration I needed to keep putting it in 1st to straighten out but got pissed and aggressive and ended up right back in reverse unintentionally a few times. Normally the initial reverse beep would be warning enough and I’d correct it but I was flustered about the boat situation that I wasn’t paying attention.

it was fun when I did that and started to gas it thinking I’d go forward and end up reversing even more making things even worse. Overall I do wish reverse was besides 6th, but oh well. For the vast majority I have no issues ending up in reverse unintentionally. It takes some pretty strong effort to get mine over there.

 

I have a small trailer also that cannot be seen in the mirrors. A couple things that I found to help is backing in Neutral, if possible, an Anytime Camera Mod to have the rear camera on for the entire maneuver, and / or the 2Lo Mod (2LM). Backing at 1.5mph is so much nicer than Mach 1.

 

Yeah so that mishap actually happened on Sunday, after I brought the truck home on a friday. Around a month ago. I have since already changed the head unit and the backup camera adapter I wired to ignition so that the camera is anytime (head unit has a button on the face for accessing the cam). Granted the camera was on for anytime I was reversing the boat but still, having it all the time would have for sure been better. I did the 2LO mod a week ago and yes, 100% that will make all the difference next time for better control, especially pulling the boat/trailer forward up the ramp when leaving.

It's not my boat anyways so not really an issue I will run into often but good to have the abilities to better deal with it in the future. Especially since I want a boat eventually anyways.

Backing in neutral is a great idea that I never thought of. Would be good on the ramp so I'm just focusing on the wheel and the camera.

 

Cheers!

It sounds like you're set. The first time is always the worst time.

 

A URD short shifter not only makes the shift feel better but stiffens up the reverse lockout quite a bit.

 

i found that to be kind of a minor change from stock, but the main issue with that SS is it went soft in less than 2 years and then the same issue between first & R. i sold that off, shoulda just done the Core from the beginning. but maybe your URD is doing better than mine did.

 

I had a similar issue, not backing a boat up, but the frustration. I kept going into reverse, and when I thought I was trying not to, I was still going into reverse. I think it's just getting used to it, my last car was a 5 spd forester, and i believe reverse was below 5th.

I'll take a look at this. Thanks!

 

I have owned 4 manuals, 2 5-speeds (Jeep and Ford with R below 5 - no lockout except when coming from 5th) and 2 6-speeds (Tacoma and Frontier - Frontier was to the left of 6th and had a spring loaded shifter that you push down, then it would let you go past 6th and pull back into R). I liked the Frontier the best, but I've gotten more used to the Toyota.

The hardest part about the Tacoma shifter to me was going from R back to 1st without going all the way back to N to get my bearings straight (for example, backing out of a driveway and then going forward). Now it is an ingrained habit to pull back from R, let it pop past the reverse detent to be inline with 1-2, then push forward up to 1st. It's a really smooth transition for me now, but was not when I first got the truck.

I just can't wait to drive my 5 speed Jeep again and try to not do it like the Tacoma I'm now used to.

 

At least for me, it's kind of funny because the different feel of different vehicles keeps me straight, somehow. Like on my bike, I have the shifting reversed, but I never have issues swapping bikes. Same with other MTs other than gauging the engage point.

 

I've had mine TOR MT since april about 1100 mi now I put TRD shifter on and it made changing gears more precise. This is the only thing I genuinely hate about my Taco. They should have put some kind of lockout on the r-geat. The only other car that had this type of gear configuration was fiat. You had to push shifter down and the to the left and forward. 1st gear was in its normal place. GM has a little lockout collar (on my SAAB) that you have to pull up before you get in reverse (same direction as 6th gear on Taco). When I was in a rush at traffic lights i did slam the truck in reverse a few times. Yes it does require more effort to go R, but it is not that much more significant. I wish Taco would have some lockout.