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New Bilstein 4600

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by LukeSpag, Jun 30, 2022.

  1. Jul 3, 2022 at 5:17 PM
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    I replaced my old 20 year old 4600s with new 4600s a few months back on my 2x4. Smoother ride and noticeable lift.

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  2. Jul 3, 2022 at 9:37 PM
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  3. Jul 3, 2022 at 9:48 PM
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    I'm still mind screwed by "noticeable lift" from new shocks. Is 1/8-1/4" that noticeable? I'm not talking shit, I'm just unfamiliar with the concept of shocks providing lift.
     
  4. Jul 3, 2022 at 9:55 PM
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    Shocks dampen one's ride.

    My best guess is new shocks, being that they're pressurized, are helping to hold up the weight of one's vehicle.

    Old shocks have lost their ability to dampen, leaving all weight on already failing coils and leaf pack.

    I'd never recommend replacing shocks without replacing coils or a leaf pack that needs replacing.
     
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  5. Jul 3, 2022 at 9:56 PM
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    Kind of like vehicles with 2 motor mounts; sometimes people would replace 1 because it's broken (or maybe both are) and they're trying to save money.

    This eventually leads to the old one breaking soon after, only for the 'new' one to break after that right away.
     
  6. Jul 4, 2022 at 12:07 AM
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    Bilstein 4600 f+r and coils/leafs are on the short list for me as well. I think I read that fronts left and right are the same part number, but rear is two different ones? Also does anyone have suggestions and part numbers for coils and leaf stacks? This is for stock height replacement (no lift)

    I know a lot of people are replacing LBJ's for piece of mind, but should I be concerned about the UBJ too? I have done the leverage test on both LBJ's and UBJ's and they seem fine for now, but I figure I may as well at least do the LBJ's when I do the shocks and springs. What other potential wear items should be considered during this replacement? My truck has just north of 150, and afaik, still 100% stock suspension components.
     
  7. Jul 4, 2022 at 7:32 AM
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    After 220k I have a feeling this was my case. I was in AdvanceAuto yesterday and saw a sign that said “mechanics recommend new shocks every 50k” so I was a little behind
     
  8. Jul 4, 2022 at 7:33 AM
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    Pretty sure I said the same :luvya:
     
  9. Jul 4, 2022 at 7:34 AM
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    This was kinda my thought with replacing front shocks along with back. The fronts weren’t in as bad of shape but if I had it up and taken apart I figured it wouldn’t hurt to do fronts as preventative maintenance
     
  10. Jul 4, 2022 at 7:37 AM
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    You were long overdue.

    Your fronts were in terrible shape; just cause they weren't physically broken doesn't mean they weren't due for replacement.

    That's the thought process many people have and the reason why so many vehicles are running old ass worn suspension for so long.

    Drive into a shop for an oil change, and the mechanic recommends you get new shocks. Owner is thinking "well they're not broke so naw, let's pass" and that'll go on for some time :bananadead:
     
  11. Jul 4, 2022 at 7:38 AM
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    The unfortunate truth is my shop never recommended fronts they just recommended rears
     
  12. Jul 4, 2022 at 7:39 AM
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    You should learn to wrench on your vehicle, it's surprisingly easy.

    There are a ton of us that do and offer advice where you might get stuck.
     
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    Yeah kinda disappointed in myself for not doing my own maintenance but I’m kinda just scared of the liability involved. But im also going to college in the fall so the taco won’t get much action
     
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    Yeah man I hear you. I would of never thought they would provide any lift (thats what leaf springs do). But my old 4600s were 20 years old and burnt out. Maybe the new ones provide just enough pressure / force to push the leaf springs up a little? IDK... but there is a noticeable lift.
     
  15. Jul 5, 2022 at 7:26 PM
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    Hi guys, I’m hoping someone can shed some light for me.

    Which strut mounts would fit the Bilsteins that come on the 2021 TRD Off Road, like the ones pictured?

    Can someone point me to an assembly kit and/or bushing kit for the front/rear shocks/springs?


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  16. Jul 5, 2022 at 7:38 PM
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    No Tacoma's use struts.

    Also, you're in the wrong section.
     
  17. Jul 5, 2022 at 8:00 PM
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    I asked about “strut mounts” - it seems that is what they’re called when I search for the part that goes there that holds the spring in tension on the front shock... I then asked for information about bushings and assembly kits for the “shocks/springs.”

    You’re inferring that I said Tacomas use struts. I didn’t.

    Can you be more helpful or are you only here in Tacomaworld after choosing violence and sporting your Land Cruiser?
     
  18. Jul 5, 2022 at 8:04 PM
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    I'll rephrase; wrong section for your coilover top hats.

    I stick around to share helpful information to those that need it, for the generation I'm familiar with.

    I'm betting your question can be answered in the 3rd Gen section.

    Not sure what I drive has to do with anything? I even have 1st Gen Tacoma part numbers in my sig :burp:
     
  19. Jul 5, 2022 at 8:09 PM
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    Or 2nd Gen.

    2013 per his sig.
     
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    Aren't they essentially the same thing?

    Think the spring rate is different, or the length? I just recall 2nd Genners using 3rd Gen coilovers for a minor lift.
     
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