Will Toyota build a 6th gen 4Runner?

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  1. Feb 27, 2022 at 1:35 PM
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    Will the new 4Runner be sold in the US? Toyota does not sell the new Land Cruiser in the US with the exception of the Lexus version. Toyota discontinued the FJ Cruiser in the US back in 2015, I don't think Toyota sells the FJ in any other market now. The 5th gen 4Runner has been rumored to go away every year, for like the past 5 years.

    People keep buying them, but is it worth it for Toyota to develop a new 4Runner from the ground up?

    In the US Toyota will have the new Sequoia, and current RAV4 which could satisfy the 4Runner market. Depending on why that buyer is looking for in a 4Runner. Toyota also has Highlander, Venza, and the Corolla Cross.

    How many SUVs does Toyota want sell in one market.

    TNGA-F would lead me to believe Toyota could and would build a 6th gen 4Runner, but why bring that to the US?

    Unless Toyota builds both the 4th gen Tacoma, and 6th gen 4Runner in the same US plant. I don't think the US will see a 6th gen 4Runner if Toyota builds one at all.
     
  2. Feb 27, 2022 at 1:42 PM
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    lol chill. Why fuck with a good thing? The Tundra just got a refresh. What makes you think they won’t do that with the 4R?

    just wait.
     
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    Next Gen 4Runner will have a BEV option like the next gen Tacoma will. The Highlander will go before the 4Runner.
     
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    The FJ is still sold in the middle east.

    Last I had looked, 4Runner sales were on the rise each year.
     
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    Lol IDK:notsure:

    Those new Sequoias look nice, the 6th gen was rumored to be in the works. Toyota showed that EV Taco teaser, no 4Runner tho. It's starting to look as if it would make as much sense to not build a 6th gen, as would to build it, and it would make a lot of sense to build the 6th gen.
     
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    I would never in my life buy a highlander. Or a rav4. They have always been ugly to me, and never once attractive. I have a 2017 3rd Gen Tacoma and Now a 5th Gen 4R 2021. They will come out. Look at the ugly ass frontier, they finally refreshed that ugly thing. In due time.
     
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    The new Sequoia is basically the LC300. Powertrain and suspension are the same. Dunno about the terrain controls though.
     
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    5th gen sales #s from GoodCarBadCar:

    2010 46,531
    2011 44,316
    2012 48,753
    2013 48,735
    2014 77,006
    2015 97,034
    2016 111,952
    2017 128,296
    2018 139,694
    2019 131,864
    2020 129,052
    2021 144,696

    Hard to imagine they'd stop building 4Runners with them moving that many each year.
     
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    Narp. Toyota isn't ceding a piece of that market when the Bronco is trying to shoehorn in. The only reason why the 4R exists is because people still seek out a "real" BOF SUV. Granted, most people buy because of reputation and not because they will ever use, need, or understand the difference of a BOF. But they still buy them.

    As long as that market exists, Toyota will have a vehicle to sell.
     
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    absolutely. 2024 model year is my guess on the announcement.
     
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    SUVs seem to be losing popularity, even with the vast amount of offerings from every manufacturer. Sales are down across the board, with the exception of vehicles like the Ford Brono, and Audi etron. Is it the price of fuel? economic uncertainty? not enough SUVs to meet demand? Are people getting bored with SUVs? If you need the offroad and towing capability, a BOF truck can often cost less. Do most people need the room? a sedan can accommodate 4-5 passengers, a minivan can seat 7.

    Yeah Toyota just came out with the new Sequioa, but they also introduced the new Crown AWD sedan.

    I think the fullsize SUV, is going back to being mostly used in government and commercial fleets.

    I'm still having my doubts about seeing a next gen 4Runner.
     
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    I'd bet they do introduce one, likely alongside the next-gen Tacoma on a shared platform, or on a platform shared with the next Lexus GX. There's simply too many sales to leave on the table if they abandon that price bracket; yes, the Sequoia and LX exist, but they're much more expensive than the 4R, and the vehicles below it (Rav4 etc) don't offer anywhere near the capability. I think the 4Runner serves somewhat as a "halo" vehicle for Toyota, it lures people into the showroom with aspirations of outdoorsy adventure, then they realize the Highlander or Venza has more room, better fuel economy, and so on and costs the same. But with Jeep and Ford cleaning up the 4x4 market, it would be silly for Toyota to bail completely. Too much money left on the table.
     
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    Toyota is going to have to come up with something to compete with the Bronco's topless and doors off fun factor. Everybody already expects that from Jeep, even if most people don't remove the top or doors The 4Runner, just being a solid BOF 4x4 SUV isn't going cut it.
     
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    I would be shocked to see a vehicle from Toyota with a removable roof. I'd probably line up to buy one, but don't expect it anytime in the near future. The likely new "trendy" vehicle from them is the upcoming Compact Cruiser EV to compete with the Jeep Renegades, Subaru Crosstreks, etc... which won't ever replace the 4Runner, and partially why the T4R will remain true to its form...
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    @Roody, not sure if I'm misreading your post, but the 4Runner and LX460 are the same platform (LC Prado).

    @batacoma I don't know if Toyota cares about competing with stuff like that. Toyota didn't bother to include the retractable rear window on the new Sequoia that's been a staple of the first 2 gens and all generations of the 4Runner so far. I wonder if the 6th gen 4Runner will also lose the retractable rear window. It's one less thing that sets the 4Runner apart from the competition.
     
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    4Runner and GX are same platform, LX is Land Cruiser platform
     
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    I imagine the next Gen 4R will be built in the same plants in Mexico that the Tacoma is.
     
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    You're right, I always get LX and GX mixed up.
     
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    I wouldn't mind a removable roof 4Runner, even though I don't gravitate toward those kind of vehicles, and probably wouldn't buy one.

    Something like the 1st gen 4Runner, maybe even a fold down 2nd row with a mid gate to turn the rear cargo area into a fully usable 6' bed. That's asking a lot, and would probably get very expensive. That, and I don't think Toyota will be building any 2dr SUVs this would need to be a 2dr.

    I don't know about the compact cruiser, but I get the segment that Toyota wants to compete in. I didn't like the FJ Cruiser when it went on sale in 07. I still don't think it's the best looking SUV, but the styling has grown on me over the years, and they look good modified, and it is a BOF truck design.

    The compact cruiser doesn't seem like it will be as capable, or truck like. RAV4, Crosstrek, and even Corolla HB, look cool dressed up like an overland, or rally car, but still being a unibody It's quite the same as a BOF SUV or truck.
     
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    5th gen T4R is out after model year 2023. Lexus GX 460 is out once TNGA-F production begins in Mexico. Toyota isn't going to abandon the segment.

    What makes the most financial sense for Toyota. Sell one midsize BOF TNGA-F SUV. The Lexus GX 500, or what ever designation Toyota, badges the new SUV.

    Lexus already sells the LX-600 branded 300 series Land Crusier. Land Cruiser despite its success was discontinued for the NA market.

    The rumor mill, has been spouting that Toyota wants to sell a compact LC, in the US. Which would be a Prado/GX. There was also that LX 570 URJ201 concept vehicle from 2020 showing how series Lexus takes the overland market.

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