RCLT HD 2.75" - Travel Numbers and Notes

SAS > IFS is just facts, save your monies

#letsrollbutthole

 

I will convert units for the masses so nothing is lost in translation

1 tonne = 1 ton

colour me impressed?!

Edit: no one impressed, because it’s incorrect

 

A metric tonne and an american ton are different values, but it's the attempt that counts

 

A shot and a miss! Two tonnes of dumb dumb over here.

 

To be fair he was only wrong by about 10%. That's better then some other numbers that have been thrown around in here. lol

 

Solo motorsports did the tundra rack thing before me. I couldn't afford thier price tag, but I have alot of tools, bought a oem rack and took it apart and figured out what to mess with and modify on my own by trial and error. And have been trying to improve on it, offering a fit kit, now a locating template etc.

And I just try to pass it on to the customer,
And if someone wants to find a rack on thier own and disassemble it and just send me the parts to modify it to save you some money, I don't mind. There's even two youtube videos that my dad and I made on how to take em apart.
Solo outsources the racks to be modified anyway...I called and asked em, nice guys.
They even helped me figure out my front cv setup when I designed my kit, what did they have to gain? Nothin, but they understand how innovation and progression prospers and new developments come about.
Like Elon Musk with Tesla...none of that technology is patented, doesn't care if it's replicated because that's how new ideas are born...off of old ideas.

Blatant copycat rebadging is kinda lame sure. Either way someone is gunna come out with a different idea to stay ahead...thats how things evolve.

 

We did the CTI test following the instructions on their website. We used an RTI ramp plus a forklift. I wasnt able to flex out the rear springs because they were far too stiff, but we measured 880.

 

I think this point is hard for people to appreciate unless they have seen it in person. I am running ORI struts that are filled with nitrogen instead of a standard coilover. The instructions for the ORIs say to fill the struts with nitrogen while the truck is on the ground, but I can't do this because the tires lock to the ground when trying to lift. They maintain their camber angle too well. So I have to get the tires off the ground to fill the struts.

 

The quoted post of big Mike's above this one......big whoopty do...I'd say most modern long travel kits accommodate a few inches of lift, gain or loss of toe making it sound like you have a 1* total of toe change which isn't really that bad or astronomically good. It's acceptable.
And toting your the only one in the world wow...get off your high horse bud.
No doubt your kit has some innovation with the lower arm design, and kinda screwing people over making your kit only work with a different steering rack which drives the price up and its not just a simple swap...gotta mess with bushings etc. Makes it a little misleading.

There's also only so many ways to skin the cat using factory suspension mount points, calling combines for copying each other altho true to some degree, majority is design constraints will limit the end results. Using that as a marketing strategy is poor taste in my opinion.

 

I like how you knock pretty much all other kit manufacturers except TC which you make some comment like you want their nuts. Since when is an LC200 rack one ton that's the most laughable comment more like 1/2 ton. Toyota makes NO one ton rated steering system. IIRC your kit is made with just regular old steel a lot of the kits you knock are chromoly. They are far from light duty like you claim and I'd argue seeing your kit as well as many others you cut a lot of corners and cheaped out in some areas where your competition did it better. I've seen a home made LT kit similar to yours by an amateur and the quality was far beyond your junk and it preformed a lot better. Yes I called your kit junk. Oh and just because something costs more doesn't make it a good value or better quality that's a pretty big fallacy.

 

I found that quote “One look at the price tag tells you RCLT HD is a different animal in a league its own. pretty funny. That’s a new way to look at things. An astronomically high price tag makes it superior.

Also if all of those kits are only able to run 285’s then what the hell am I doing on mid travel wheeling on 35’s for then? I’m walking on thin ice.

I used to be into the whole Marlin company in general and planned to eventually go through them for a crawl box but just the way you carry yourself steers me right away from all of the products. Shit, even makes me want to cut off the marlin Lca lower gussets I have on. Your products aren’t superior to any other. Price damn for sure doesn’t make them superior.

 

Just curious, have you run or installed the RCLT? What makes it junk to you? Where did they cheap out? From my understanding they went with thicker steel rather than chromoly.

 

FIFY

 

I'm curious how / why you say this comment isn't true. This was my original frustration with the selling of this kit. I placed my order before the instructions clarified inner fender trimming was required. A cab mount chop / relocation is 1/100th of the effort of inner fender trimming / battery relocation / window washer reservoir relocation, etc. I even ended up having to redo the majority of the electrical system to run a second battery just to I could use the winch. I was genuinely upset that all this extra work was needed and I am only running 37s.

But then I realized that this same work would be required on ANY low center of gravity build with lots of travel. SAS or IFS, running 37s with only 3.5" of lift means the tires need room to move. We even had to cut the aftermarket front bumper, build special brackets to hold the fenders, etc. Last picture shows the final build next to a stock 3rd gen.

 

Well you may want to research chromoly vs mild steel then if you think going thicker mild steel means better. A quick tidbit is chromoly is more expensive and you can get the same or stronger with less thickness from chromoly thus saving some weight and not having to go super thick. What makes it junk for starters could of easily upgraded the knuckle since you're already replacing it to handle a D44 outer like solo does. Since he's pushing RCV so much that's an easy upgrade to have them make a better axle with a 934 inner vs the shit plunge inner joint. Here on the EC there have been quite a few people break the RCVs. He went bushings on the arms instead of a doubled and sealed uniball pivots. Bragged about making his own rack until the product drops then says we can't here's the lc200 with the absolute worse throw compared to a tundra or tacoma rack. BTW that short throw on the rack really helps not turning your tires far enough to rub. Hmmmmm what brand of heims are they using, he has so much trouble with suppliers for his makes me think they are stuck on a boat from china, I could be wrong on that just appearance. I have not run nor installed their kit but seeing it in the wild the hype that was created for what I saw was laughable.

 

I mean using chromoly is cool...if you heat treat the parts afterwards, I know plenty that don't but it's more prone to cracking if you don't.
Rcv could make a badass axle setup with 930's....no you don't need a 934...your not going to break a 930. But yea a dana 44 outer setup is great! Parts are cheap, it's strong and manual hubs. Can retain toyota front calipers too...I wonder how I know....ohhh that's right built my own shit lol

 

I understand that chromoly is stronger, but the parts are strong enough. You are right about the hubs, but I dont think that is the weak point. I'm sure one could create the best possible setup, but there has to be some compromise somewhere. For me the truck handles amazing on road and it has a ton of ground clearance off road. I am getting all the travel and use it well. It seems the real hype is running larger than 37s, which comes with even more compromises because there isn't much room to run tires that big, unless you want to relocate headlights or limit your up travel.

I agree that the marketing could be toned down a bit, as far as "this is the best" or "this is the first", but look at any marketing and it is all like that.

 

Everybody puts forth what they think is their best engineering solution for the cost to fulfill certain set of needs for the end user. But I can’t think of anybody else is out here saying, “hey, my kit is the best, end-all IFS kit for the Tacoma and all others are inferior.” Yeah no, that’s not marketing.

 

With 35 and larger tires I've gone through those bearings like crazy. Put some miles offroad really hard stuff and you'll be going through them. A "1 ton" steering isn't worth anything if other components aren't beefed up