Replacement Starter and Alt: Rebuild OEM Denso or New Nippondenso?

I am reassembling my '97 V6 Taco after major rebuild and might as well replace the original OEM starter and alternator just for preventative MTX. Denso remanufactured starter & alt. available at Rockauto are known to be of high quality. But the new Nippondenso 1.8 kW starter and 80 amp. alt. is also available for less money. Anyone know the story or have any feedback on these new Nippondenso starters and alternators? They are being sold under several brand names such as Pure Energy, TYC, BBB, FVP, etc. TIA!

EDIT: If the reman.

$180 210-0461 Denso First Time Fit Alternator - 210-0461

210-0461 Denso 105 amp. alt. comes available again thru Rockauto, I'll go that route. The higher charge rate will help keep the AGM battery charged when using the 8K winch. I think this early '97 Taco only has a 60 or at most a 70 amp. alternator from the factory.

 

Just replace your contacts and solenoid on the starter; fast and easy.

As for alternator, lots of threads covering upgrades including swapping in a Suzuki Grand Vitara variant.

 

The OEM starter & alternator are still serviceable so will be kept as spares. I can rebuild the OEM units next summer if I feel the need. But the price of the OEM parts to rebuild the OEM starter quickly approaches the $86 cost of a new Nippondenso starter. My real question is did Nippondenso cut corners on these new starters. It is almost too good to be true to have a new Nippondenso starter available for $86 with no core charge when a Denso reman from the same vendor is $94 with core exchange. I would expect the new Nippondenso starter to be of high quality but getting some actual feedback on them would be useful.

 

So again, many threads regarding an alternator upgrade.

As for the starter rebuild, it took no more than 5 minutes and $15-20 in a parts kit.

 

You are telling nothing that I am not already aware of but thanks for chiming in. The original question remains unanswered. "Anyone know the story or have any feedback on these new Nippondenso starters and alternators?"

 

You do realize Nippondenso is, just that...Denso?

As for price difference, I'm sure it had to do with supply as remans are wherever said company can obtain them from. Whether they're pulled from part outs, or cores used, or even those retrieved from small shops during replacement jobs.

I'd venture to say, just rebuild your starter and don't worry about buying another one.

And the alternator, read above

I'm curious to hear what others have to say regarding the alternator, otherwise a quick phone call to rockauto should help answer that. Maybe try today or wait until Monday.

 

Rock auto don’t answer questions like that on the phone.

 

I'm surprised anyone still lists new parts as Nippon Denso let alone both Denso & Nippon Denso from the same vendor. As said, they are the same company, not different line/grade of parts. I haven't heard the name Nippon Denso or seen any parts labelled Nippon Denso in over 20 yrs. They changed the name to just Denso somewhere around the late 90s or early 00s.

Do they list P/Ns for the ones you are looking at? If they are different, look them up online & compare.

 

With all the mergers & subcontracting done in the large companies today, it can be very difficult for a consumer to figure out exactly who is actually manufacturing what and where. Just look at all the OEM Toyota parts marked as being made in CHINA, MEXICO, VIETNAM, etc. As a sidenote, a Japanese company such as Toyota operating in China is very hard for me to fathom given the deeply rooted hatred between the 2 societies. It must be another case of "profit is our #1 priority". It appears that these new (not remanufactured) starters and alts. have been on the market for a while now. I am not seeing any negative feedback so these new Nippondenso parts must be of at least good quality. And you are spot-on, the actual manufacturer's p/n can sometimes tell you a lot. The aftermarket Nippondenso starters/alts. all have the same p/n which is different than the Toyota or Denso p/n. But the aftermarket p/n appears to cross over correctly to the corresponding Toyota p/n. It will be interesting to see what p/n is on the actual part &/or packaging along with the country of manufacture. Appreciate the help!

 

May not apply at all in this scenario, but something I learned is many large corporations have multiple factories throughout different countries manufacturing the same parts.

For instance, take small Honda motors for example IE GX-series

Japanese company with manufacturing done both in Japan as well as Taiwan yet, the manufacturing in Taiwan is held to the same quality control and standards as that of those built in Japan. Cost of labor, setting up, etc. in itself saves the corporation money but it doesn't necessarily mean that the consumer takes a hit on quality. Still need to source a crank for my GX270...it's taken apart in the shed at the moment