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Space and Science BS Thread

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Monster Coma, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. Nov 22, 2022 at 6:26 PM
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    Does ESA have their own space suits?
     
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    I do not think so. Good question to source up an answer!
     
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    Happy Thanksgiving space nerds!
     
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    Haven't the passengers always worn the suit of the nation giving the ride? Or are we talking EVA suits? Even then there are only three options (US, Russian, Chinese) and one isn't happening any time soon.

    On that front: have all EVAs conducted by non cosmonauts been done in US suits?

    Bonus round #2: has there been a mixed EVA? I know the US & Russians tend to maintain their own sides independently and with the safety options afforded by having the same model suits out together I'd think this hasn't happened. But does someone know definitively?
     
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    Eva suits definitely.
     
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    For all its problems the shuttle was pretty amazing. One has to wonder what it might have been or become under other circumstances. We seem to quit on programs because they are poorly implemented rather than because they’re a bad idea.
     
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    John Young concluded in his book, Forever Young, the Shuttle program never made it to the operational stage of program development.

    Since reading that, I’ve had a what if thought- what if the Shuttle was mounted on the SLS with the super deluxe boosters, removed from the possibilities of the Challenger and Columbia disasters…

    Going back to a capsule is regressive.
     
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    Agreed on the capsule. Do you mean on top rather than astride to avoid damage from insulation?
     
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    Yes, and from RUD. (one of the same bits of rationale for Orion to be on top of SLS)
     
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    It’s also a requirements problem - we’ve realized that we don’t need the capabilities of a space plane enough to justify the costs involved. Wheels and wings take up a lot of mass, and don’t help you get payload to space, which is the real goal. We only used the “bring mass back to earth” capability a handful times, and never came close to the operational ability needed to justify the cross-track capability that the wings gave us:
    https://youtu.be/_q2i0eu35aY
    http://www.jamesoberg.com/sts-3A_B-DRM.PDF
    While the shuttle was a technological marvel, I would argue it was a solution in search of a problem, and most things it did could have been completed faster/cheaper/safer with capsules.
     

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