Rust Recall Issue

lynlan1819 · Dec 17, 2022

flyguide24[OP] initial post: ↑

Hey Guys,

so I bought a 2005 TRD Sport with a crazy amount of rust. I had my parents (who live in KS) pick it up without myself actually looking at the truck. The truck was never shown to my folks either, only pictures of some rust issues (it was my uncles who worked at the Toyota dealership Maintenence dept.)Obviously the thing had a rust recall. It was sold from a Toyota dealership in my hometown, Manhattan KS. The dealership never disclosed that the truck was ever eligible for a rust recall (I was told about the recall from a homie here in Colorado recently) and they still sold the truck. The truck seems unsafe to drive if I say so myself, and the recall expired in 2019. Am I eligible or entitled to compensation for this? The dealership never mentioned once about the frame being eligible for the recall, and wouldn’t they be required to do something about it before selling to the general public? It’s so rusty that the gas tank is falling out from the buckles rusting off. Does anyone know of a warranty extension? I just feel like the dealership sold a truck they didn’t disclose as unsafe to drive or at least didn’t even let us know that there was a recall on the frame in the first place. Also, as a dealership inspecting the vehicle, wouldn’t they be required to do something to the frame before selling? Just curious, thanks guys.
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Its on the buyer to know what you are buying,Toyota is not responsible for that truck anymore.Buyer Beware

sgage · Dec 18, 2022

Dm93 said: ↑

If it was obviously unfit to drive when it was sold you may have some recourse depending on the laws in your state but unless it was sold as certified probably not, most everything that's not sold as certified is sold "as is" and it's the buyer's responsibility to inspect the vehicle before buying.

The frame replacement program was nothing more than an extended warranty/customer satisfaction program on the frame (and related components if the frame was eligible for replacement) for trucks sold in certain states, it was never a recall.
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It was NOT an extended warranty - it was the settlement of a class action suit. Not a recall, not a warranty extension.

On those early year Tacos (including my 2007), there WAS an actual recall, but that ended in 2016. The settlement frame replacement offer expired 12 years from first in-service date.

And it was not limited to 'cold weather' states - you are conflating different agreements. If you had a Taco in the settlement years, and the frame had a hole 1 cm or larger, and it was under 12 years from in-service date, you got a new frame.

3JOH22A · Dec 18, 2022

flyguide24[OP] said: ↑

I’ll have to post some pics in the morning… it’s pretty gnarly on the rear driver cross joint

still I don’t care if I don’t get anything from this
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Is the frame actually rusted to a point to fail inspection (10mm or larger hole)?

Keep in mind there could be any number of ways an 18 year-old vehicle can be unsafe to drive and not be covered by a service campaign. Rusted fuel tank straps you mentioned, bald tires, worn brake pads, etc. etc.

Bishop84 · Dec 18, 2022

sgage said: ↑

It was NOT an extended warranty - it was the settlement of a class action suit. Not a recall, not a warranty extension.

On those early year Tacos (including my 2007), there WAS an actual recall, but that ended in 2016. The settlement frame replacement offer expired 12 years from first in-service date.

And it was not limited to 'cold weather' states - you are conflating different agreements. If you had a Taco in the settlement years, and the frame had a hole 1 cm or larger, and it was under 12 years from in-service date, you got a new frame.
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It’s both, it’s a warranty enhancement that is a result of the law suit.

sgage · Dec 18, 2022

Bishop84 said: ↑

It’s both, it’s a warranty enhancement that is a result of the law suit.
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Legally, it is not a warranty extension. I don't know about 'enhancement' - never heard that language applied. IAC, legally, it makes a difference.

Bishop84 · Dec 18, 2022

sgage said: ↑

Legally, it is not a warranty extension. I don't know about 'enhancement' - never heard that language applied. IAC, legally, it makes a difference.
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It has to be called something, so extension/enhancement is the wording. Toyota uses these two a lot.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10154787-9999.pdf

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