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Fabrications a custom front recovery bracket.

Discussion in 'Recovery' started by Topanga Taco, Jan 28, 2023.

  1. Jan 28, 2023 at 4:41 PM
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    Topanga Taco

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    Hello gang. Question on fabricating a recovery bracket for the front.

    I searched and found no threads custom brackets(if anyone can point to one, I would greatly appreciate it. I was looking at some that are for sale, minus the ARB epic one, and I’m not too crazy for them.

    Can this TIG welder handle penetration in the type of steel that has to be used?

    Im not much of a metal guy, other than building two stroke hot saws, and building stuff around the property.

    This is not for heavy duty recovery, but I would like to build for it nonetheless. It’s to mainly help the locals out here on HWY 27 when the weather gets bad.

    Gracias

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  2. Jan 28, 2023 at 4:44 PM
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    Gotta lay off the weeeeeed!

    Just noticed the thread below. I’m going to forget the search, and just scroll. Thanks anyway.
     
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    Post a pic of a random welder and ask us if it can make a recovery point?

    The real question is if you're a competent enough welder.

    With TIG, it's really easy for newbies to go slow thus applying too much heat causing the metal outside the weld to become brittle.

    This can also apply to MIG welding but since MIG is really easy, you'll find it happen less often.

    But yeah a quality machine and good welder can easily make something much stronger than a vehicle recovery point. If it's a thick solid piece, just bevel the mating pieces and run a strong root weld followed by a clean hot pass and remaining welds.
     
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  4. Jan 28, 2023 at 5:54 PM
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    Topanga Taco

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    TIG welding is not that hard. Never welded a recovery point, hence why I asked. Chill, or pull the curly hair from your butt!

    There is Industrial Metal supply locally and I’m sure I can find remnant pieces to use.

    And now that the Taco is paid off, I’m thinking of even welding some areas around where it connects too. Seems a bit weak to depend on.
     
  5. Jan 28, 2023 at 6:04 PM
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    Curly?..chill?...what are you talking about?...

    Never said TIG was hard, just stated MIG is super easy. But I made that comment regarding metal becoming brittle because your question implies a little bit of inexperience (whether it's in welding or metal in general).

    Was more of a "the more you know" which is odd that you misunderstood it as if you thought I was upset? I was simply providing knowledge.

    But any welding process (SMAW, TIG, MIG, FCAW) can create a weld stronger than you'd require for a recovery point.

    PS don't get so hurt so easily
     
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  6. Jan 28, 2023 at 6:16 PM
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    TIG welding 22g steel is an art. I know first hand a tight fitment is necessary, or forget it. Controlling heat so as to now blow through is mandatory. However, I never welded anything thick with the machine and thus why I asked. Now who’s the one who got butt hurt in their sharing?

    This is turning out to be a fun project as I never got into over landing and never built the rear rack. I started building nitro carbs for chainsaw racing and got super busy. Over landing bit the dust.
     
  7. Jan 28, 2023 at 6:43 PM
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    Machine looks like it can do smaw as well. If you don't trust your tig experience then get familiar with stick.
     
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    Ok let’s just level set that recovery points are a safety thing. Next not much detail here about thoughts on type of steel, dimensions, experience, or welder specs.

    Building your own recovery point is probably not a good idea as a starter project on heavier fab with a plan to learn as you go. It’s your life if the thing cracks and that chunk of metal goes ballistic on the end of a strap.
     
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  9. Jan 29, 2023 at 9:14 AM
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    The ARB design is the way to go, but I won’t be fabricating mine like theirs. I don’t wheel hardcore, but I would like a stronger point to hitch from in the front for pulling. I don’t like the ones that bolt only to the 1/8” boxed steel, or the OR hook I currently have. So I will follow suit and design one that bolts to the frame. I’d like to weld it also. Not a complete weld, but in a few spots for added strength.

    Tell you what. A fight against cancer opens one’s eyes to want to accomplish more. Sucks being on the bed messed up and hearing “life” happening outside. So when I fought to fight of my life and won, I took on building nitro carbs which was a MASSIVE learning curve. But it felt awesome at the top of the peak when I figured it out. Now welding sheet is not the same as plate I’d imagine. But it should be a lot easier. This is going to be fun.

    “I’ll be back.” :0)
     
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    EDIT: Upon starting the build research, it looks like this machine is probably good enough with some passes. I got it to build expansion chambers and weld aluminum blocks to the cylinders. I never bothered to check for maximum output and penetration. So this is going to be some fun times.

    Laters until another day.

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  11. Jan 29, 2023 at 4:55 PM
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    There are plenty of people not to far from you that could easily handle a project like this for you if you choose not to do it yourself.
     
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    I’m all in on this one. However, I’m not going to go as far as ARB did. Bad photo description, but I decided to build it without the hook. Now that’s there for a reason, I’m assuming the crumple zone if I understood it correctly. But I want something stronger than what is out there (small plates ones on Amazon and such)just in case I’m asked to be an anchor. I don’t like that the OR hook can slip a strap given the right circumstances. Yes, many variables, so I want to make this connection stronger). I want to have more material around the connection hitch point. The 7/8 shackle should take up the extra space without any issues.

    Again, I don’t wheel hardcore and don’t imagine I’ll ever get into a recovery scenario. But I sure as hell like to help folks out to get going again.

    I’m building a few WG’s to burn 20%, so I’ll be busy for a bit. But in the meantime, I’m going to plan a trip to Industrial Metal Supply and check things out.

    I am going to show the finished fabrication in this thread.

    laters.

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    In doing some research, I’ll be looking for some 4130.

    I also saw another recovery mount that caught my eye. I liked the saddle idea.
     
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    Well, after finally having the time to finish the research, the expenses are a bit on the wild side. The end mills alone to cut the 4130 is making me think twice, lol. And I know I’ll probably need a few being I have a cheap Jet mill. I don’t trust it atm.

    I’ll be back though when times are better. Yeah, speaking about interest rates :0(
     
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    I was thinking of doing something like this all out of 3/8” mild steel. Should hold the chingazos.
     
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    There’s only one way to find out! :welder:
     

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