Which Lugs to Buy - RRW Wheels/3rd Gen Tacoma

Hello,

Just realized my stock lug nuts won't work with my new RRW RR7-H wheels. What lug nuts are recommend for these? I've been searching online and it appears locking lug nuts are up for debate if they are worth it or not. Seeing brands such as Gorilla Automotive and McGard. Even on their site there is a lot of options. Any advice is helpful. Thanks!

 

Whatever a RRW RR7-H wheel is, wouldn't the manufacturer be who to ask? Or at least the vendor you bought through?

 

The lugs they sell are out of stock.

 

Huh, the Relations Race Wheels web links are not liked on TW

https://www.***********************...dlock/products/pre-order-rr7-h-tacoma-4runner

https://www.***********************/pages/faq

"Will my stock lug nuts work with your wheels?
- NO. All of our wheels require aftermarket lug nuts 12x1.5 that are conical seating with a 60 degree taper

What's the difference between ET and non-ET lug nuts?

• We offer ET lugs in a 12x1.5 thread length for the Tacoma, 4Runnera dn GX. It's a known issue that these three vehicles haveshort wheel studs.Upgrading to aftermarket wheels causes the lug seating to change to a conical seating, which then results in less thread engagement than what the factory wheels and lug nuts can obtain.
• By using our ET lug nuts, the shank of the lug nut fits snugly into the wheel's lughole resulting in more thread engagement and a better peace of mind.
• Another benefit is the wheels are now not only hub-centric, but also lug centric. Using ET lug nuts provides the same amount of wheel securement that a factory OEM wheel/lug nut setup would supply. "

https://www.***********************/collections/lug-nuts/products/hex-closed-end-lug-nuts
Nuts all day long:
https://lugnutguys.com/pages/search...ion=lug-nuts-et&page=1&rb_snize_facet2=12x1.5
https://www.alphawausa.com/products...orn-lug-nuts-12x1-5-for-aftermarket-wheels-60
https://www.coyoteaccessories.com/lugs/lug-nuts?lug_style=2201&lug_thread=378
https://shop.wheelacc.com/12x15-black-et-lug-nut-single-p6831.aspx
https://jdcustomsusa.com/products/jdc-evo-8-9-titanium-lug-nut-set-m12x1-5mm
https://www.chasingjs.com/product/chasing-js-closed-end-titanium-lug-nuts
https://www.chasingjs.com/product/chasing-js-titanium-extended-closed-end-lug-nuts

 

So they won't tell you the specs you need to shop another brand?

Thread, length and seat type?

And splined lugs are kind of locking, because a tool is needed, but easy to defeat if the thrift has the tool or the time to use an alternate.

Traditional locking lugs (one per wheel, clover style key) only deter 12 yo kids who aren't running with 15 yo 3rd offenders. IE really easy to defeat.

 

Not these remove spaces https://www. relations race wheels. com /collections/lug-nuts/products/hex-closed-end-lug-nuts

 

Aftermarket wheels and lugs are new too me. Thanks for sharing the links @eurowner . What's confusing to me is the concept of extended threads in this case.
Wouldn't the lug nut use all of the threads on the stud since the required lug nuts require a conical seating with 60 taper? Sounds like the lug nut would seat all the way up to the hub?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something. I understood (M12x1.5) to be a 12mm diameters with 1.5 being the pinch. Not sure how I can make sure I'm getting extended thread.

@Clearwater Bill is there any other locking system you recommend?

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https://www.***********************/pages/faq

Will my stock lug nuts work with your wheels?

• NO. All of our wheels require aftermarket lug nuts that are conical seating with a 60 degree taper. This is a standard size for many aftermarket wheels.

Aftermarket lug nuts are more compact and use a smaller hex socket, which greatly reduces the possibility of scratching your wheels paint when installing and removing the lug nuts.

Be sure to check the size of your vehicle's studs before purchasing lug nuts. The 3 most common sizes that we sell are:

1.) 12x1.5 (Tacoma, 4Runner, Lexus)

2.) 14x1.5 (Tundra, Chevy, F150, F250, Ram 1500/2500, Silverado 2500/3500)

3.) 12x1.25 (Subaru)



What's the difference between ET and non-ET lug nuts?

• We offer ET lugs in a 12x1.5 thread length for the Tacoma, 4Runnera dn GX. It's a known issue that these three vehicles have short wheel studs.Upgrading to aftermarket wheels causes the lug seating to change to a conical seating, which then results in less thread engagement than what the factory wheels and lug nuts can obtain.
• By using our ET lug nuts, the shank of the lug nut fits snugly into the wheel's lughole resulting in more thread engagement and a better peace of mind.
• Another benefit is the wheels are now not only hub-centric, but also lug centric. Using ET lug nuts provides the same amount of wheel securement that a factory OEM wheel/lug nut setup would supply.

 

I sentences I posted and you quoted are off RRW Website. Tacoma is 12mm x 1.5mm wheel stud size.

Extended


NOT extended




Stock Tacoma wheel nuts are extended Not 60* tapered.

 

Not any I know about.

To me they are like alarm systems. Not very useful.

 

The Gorilla Automotive splined lugs are mint. Get the ET ones right on Amazon they come with the socket (buy a spare also $10). They look cool and are also slightly more narrow so they fit inside the wheels better.

$30 Gorilla Automotive 21134ETBC Black 12mm x 1.50 Thread Size Chrome Finish Small Diameter 6-Lug Kit, (Pack of 24)

Amazon.com: Gorilla Automotive 21134ETBC Black 12mm x 1.50 Thread Size Chrome Finish Small Diameter 6-Lug Kit, (Pack of 24) : Automotive

 

Ordered these! Thanks