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3rd gen headlight tab reinforcement/repair

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by Firn, Mar 16, 2023.

  1. Mar 16, 2023 at 5:01 PM
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    Firn

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    Designed up some repair tabs for a set of lights I picked up. Figured I would see how they work and then offer them for sale later.
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    They also should work to reinforce good tabs (so that they don't break).
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    The intent is to epoxy these to whatever remains of the existing tabs, reinforcing or repairing the light.

    I have a couple sets I would like to get some feedback from others on, if anyone is willing to try some and let me know how they work I would appreciate it. I have two sets in red and one in black.

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  2. Mar 16, 2023 at 5:04 PM
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  3. Mar 16, 2023 at 5:09 PM
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    I think a plastic hot air "welding" gun would do better than epoxy. But not as accesible, really. What type of epoxy/glues are you looking at?
     
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  4. Mar 16, 2023 at 5:52 PM
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    Although the parts are a pretty good fit I won't claim they are perfect. Best to have something with just a bit of thickness to it. I'm going to suggest the gorilla glue two part epoxy available at Lowes. Some thickness to it and readily accessable.
     
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  5. Mar 16, 2023 at 7:24 PM
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    What type of plastic are the braces made of, and can you get a pic of the stamped/molded in material mark somewhere on the backside of the lamp? Then you can go to loc-tites site and use their adhesive selector. A rubber toughened cyanoacrolate is probably not a bad starting point, given the temperature ramge and cycling these will see, and vibration.

    Looks like a solid fit-up from your pics man.
     
  6. Mar 16, 2023 at 7:28 PM
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    Do they fit morimotos?
     
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  7. Mar 16, 2023 at 7:42 PM
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    Currently they are made from abs. I considered nylon however it's tendency to creep was less then desirable. Abs handles temps well and is reasonably impact resistant.

    Good tip on the loc-tite site, I was not aware of that. Thank you

    The fit is pretty decent, just not exact. I am working with 3d scanning now to create a more accurate fit and increase surface area. There are more steps to that however and it takes time to learn new tools and techniques.
    Here is a 3d scan of an original tab done using Reality Capture (amazing software) and over 100 photos. This 3d shape will then be subtracted from a generic shape in order to create an exact fitment.
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  8. Mar 16, 2023 at 7:43 PM
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    I expect not, they might however. Do you have a picture of the morimoto tab?
     
  9. Mar 16, 2023 at 8:27 PM
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    I can get one to you tomorrow.
     
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    Looks like the factory housing is polypropylene, a more difficult plastic to glue.

    Digging into various solutions now

    Edit
    JB Weld 50133, Plastic Bonder, specifically states PP (Polypropylene) and ABS. That is the best bet
     
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    I'm kinda surprised its polypropylene, I was expecting some sort of glass reinforced nylon.
     
  12. Mar 17, 2023 at 8:26 PM
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    I was too
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  13. Mar 19, 2023 at 8:23 AM
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    Can you send a pic of the Morimoto tab? I would be interested to see if it works for them as well
     
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    I can grab you a photo of Morimoto tabs if you still need them.
     
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    That would be great if you could.

    I did look at the OEM LED lights and they use a slightly different tab so my current design won't work for them. I am looking at picking up a set though to make repair/reinforcement tabs for those as well.

    I should have a batch of tabs to send to testers this weekend.
     
  16. Mar 24, 2023 at 10:45 AM
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    Props to you for R&D'ing these. eBay is flooded with nice headlamps that have busted tabs, way cheaper than buying them new.

    Toyota sells (used to sell anyway) bolt-on tabs, to replace broken tabs for the headlamps on the 2nd gen Tacos...and it's never made sense to me why they haven't followed suit with the 3rd gen.
     
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    I have some more tab repair pieces I would be willing to send to testers in exchange for feedback and pictures.
     
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    I think all my sets have been claimed for the moment. Thanks
     
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    What about the side tab? Just found mine is broken, which now won’t allow the bumper clip to stay bolted down. Ugh.
     
  20. Mar 25, 2023 at 6:07 PM
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    The small one? I was seeing a bunch of lights with broken side tabs, I will have to add that to the kit. I should be able to do something for that spot.
     
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