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TPMS questions

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Logger, Apr 27, 2023.

  1. Apr 27, 2023 at 8:30 AM
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    Trying to get some clarity on TPMS for my 2013. So, I recently slapped on a set of takeoffs from a 2023 Trail Edtion and when I installed them I was surprised that the TPMS light wasn't on. I drove for 25 miles and then went to bleed some air due to overinflation (55 psi) down to 35 and the light came on. Thinking perhaps my gauge was off, I aired up to 40 and the light was still on.

    I then got my old wheels within proximity to the truck and reset the monitor system and now the light is off. I put on 30 miles and it's still OFF.

    Questions: do the 2023 TPMS jive with my 2013? Did my reset "trick" the takeoffs into keeping the light off?

    I know I can just buy an aftermarket set of sensors and have them installed, but I'm trying to learn a bit more and save some money. I certainly would've thought that if the system didn't recognize the takeoffs the light would illuminate immediately.

    thanks - Sam
     
  2. Apr 27, 2023 at 8:35 AM
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    Sometimes it takes some driving before the fault light comes on, not sure why honestly. Your gonna need to install the original sensors into the new wheels or program the new sensors id numbers to the module(computer) or clone aftermarket new sensors to the original sensor id #'s so that the truck thinks its the original sensors.
    If this sounds confusing I can post a longer example of how tpms works.
     
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    I am fixing to bypass the light and ground the blue wire in the harness next glove compartment on my 2007 next week . Just putting regular valve stems in. There is a youtube video.
     
  4. Apr 27, 2023 at 8:45 AM
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    Oh ok, I plan on keeping my old wheels and tires for winter, so I'll leave those intact; I should've mentioned that in the original post. If I'm understanding correctly, then I think the most economical option is to get the 2023 sensors programmed into my computer. Which involves breaking the bead and pulling the sensor to ID. I was hoping I could avoid any manipulation to the wheels seeing as most tire places are hacks. Discount absolutely hammered the ever loving hell out of my rust-free AZ factory TRD wheels last time I was in.

    thanks for your help
     
  5. Apr 27, 2023 at 8:56 AM
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    Question for OP the tpms in the 2013 wheels are they original or have you replaced them recently, and if so how recently?
    Question for other members, am I correct that 2023 tpms will NOT work in 2013 vehicles?
     
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    OEM, yes. Original to the truck? Not sure as I've only had the truck for a year. They worked with no issues. I just had to complicate things by swapping wheels :D
     
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    If you have to break down the tires it is just a lot easier to install sensors compatible with your 2013. Will cost about $60 for 4 new sensors. They're going to charge you the same to break down the tires either way. It's about $10/tire here.

    These fit my 2007 and I'm pretty sure they will also fit a 2013. I know they aren't compatible with a 2023.

    Amazon.com: MORESENSOR Signature Series 315MHz TPMS Tire Pressure Sensor 4-Pack | Preprogrammed for Select 270+ Japanese Brand Models | Replacement for 42607-33011 | Snap-in | NX-S008-SN-4 : Automotive

    I installed a set of these 2 years ago when I last bought new tires. My old sensors were still working, but I was pretty confident they wouldn't outlast another set of tires. No extra cost to install them when mounting new tires.

    I've used these in 3 other vehicles anywhere from 2-5 years ago. They all worked fine and are still working.

    Don't. It isn't hard nor expensive to do it right.
     
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  8. Apr 27, 2023 at 10:06 AM
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    Good to know that yours worked and are reasonably priced. Now, the million dollar question: as I swap wheels out seasonally, will I have to reprogram each time? Doing a bit of digging here, tells me yes even with compatible learned replacement sensors. Ugh..
     
  9. Apr 27, 2023 at 11:24 AM
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    I am fairly certain that the 2023 tpms will not work in your 2013, have them removed and list them for sale. I would have aftermarket tpms installed in the 2023 rims, I have autels and they work good, any decent brand will work.
    What you need to do is get the aftermarket tpms that will be put in the 2023 rims to be cloned as the 2013 tpms, this way both sets of tires will have the same id numbers so you do not have to reprogram the vehicle tpms info each time you swap winter/summer wheels. If this is confusing to the tire shop then go somewhere else, up north most decent tire shops should be aware of how to do this.
     
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  10. Apr 27, 2023 at 11:52 AM
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    ahh...ok gotcha man. I'm totally new to this tpms stuff coming from a 1st gen. I appreciate your suggestions and clarity in helping me navigate through tpms land.
     
  11. Apr 27, 2023 at 12:02 PM
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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/ripcords-spruce-mica-build.552033/page-3

    Im considering doing this mod to fool the sensors.
     
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  12. Apr 27, 2023 at 2:19 PM
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    I dont understand the risk with this, you make a picture tube and pressurize it with the sensors inside, then you keep it in the cab, I would worry about it getting cracked at some point and rupturing. I also don't understand why people hate tpms, I like that if theres a small leak the light will come on well before I am at risk of damaging the tire or worse a blow out on the interstate, I can check/inflate my tires once a month and unless the light comes on I dont have to spent a second thinking if a tire might be leaking, he'll I'm a auto mechanic, I like working on cars, but I dont want to discover while I'm on the interstate that a slow leak brought the pressure down to 10psi overnight.
     
  13. Apr 27, 2023 at 2:24 PM
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    I think for those that offroad and have to deflate and inflate their tires that'll be the reason for hating them. I don't see the tube cracking or rupturing if you keep it in one of the compartments under the rear seat storage compartments where it's snug and kept from moving around.
     
  14. Apr 27, 2023 at 6:35 PM
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    Yeah ok I can see your point for off roading, especially with the idiot light that the 2nd gen has, at least 3rd gen shows you the individual pressures. As for the PVC cracking/rupturing, I've seen two pcv shop air systems explode that were assembled in the same fashion as i see people recommend here, I wouldn't worry as much with metal pipe/caps that have sealant and screw together.
     
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