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Transmission fluid change question

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by mquibble, Mar 16, 2023.

  1. May 7, 2023 at 4:44 AM
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    gForceDude

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    That is an 'Other Name" as clearly stated.
    It is a FILTER (regardless of what "Other Names" you may use), and needs to be changed.
     
  2. May 7, 2023 at 5:05 AM
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  3. May 7, 2023 at 6:06 AM
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    I change the filter whenever I drop the pan (about 5 extra minutes), which I do around every 30k miles.
    The Spec varies by usage, ie: Towing/Hauling = more often; Regular Usage = less often; there are numbers in the Manual.
    I choose to do mine more often as preventative maintenance. I have always done it this way, with all of my trucks; and I have never had a Tranny issue or failure.
    Others may choose to do it differently, and that is okay with me; but my way has been working good for me for a long time.
    And I would much rather crawl under my truck in the garage for a couple of hours once every few years, than be stranded along the roadside somewhere with a big $$$ fix.
     
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    I did a trans service last week on a friends 2020, it certainly IS a strainer or screen simply by its physical characteristics. It sure as heJJ isn’t a filter by any sorts.
     
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    Toyota does not specify a replacement timeline.
    Never hurts to replace the strainer every 30-50k
     
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    It's life time, I've been at a Toyota dealer for over 10 years now and haven't change one (as a maintenance item). You can simply clean them when removed.

    Removing the pan and cleaning the magnets is all you need to do at most.
     
  7. May 7, 2023 at 6:22 AM
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    what do you acheive when changing a strainer? anything large enough will be caught in the magnet
     
  8. May 7, 2023 at 6:41 AM
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    The money I save doing the work myself at home allows me to spend the $50 on the filter/strainer and the $60 for the gasket. Sure it may not be required, but which way do you want to be wrong?
     
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  9. May 7, 2023 at 6:46 AM
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    My 2020 Tranny had a FILTER in it when I changed mine.
    The Toyota Part is clearly stated as being a Transmission Filter, because it is a FILTER.
    But you can call it whatever you wish - that's okay with me.
     
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    There is NO way you get 2.5 qts more fluid out by dropping the pan. Also, do a drain and refill, 3 X using three qts doesn't translate into changing 3/4 of the actual fluid because of the mixing in the pan. You could get more out if you drain the fluid in the pan after running the truck for less than a minute, which is about the amount of time the pump picks up the 3 to 4 qts of the new fluid from the sump (pan) and replaces it with the old fluid but there is still instantaneous mixing of old and new as soon as the truck starts. When you do the 3X D & F you are draining about the same amount of new fluid as old, thus wasting 1/2 or more of every qt you're putting in. This is why opening the return line and diverting the old fluid into a bucket 2 to 3 qts at a time is, IMO, the way to go. You're not hurting anything unless you run the sump dry for an extended period of time. I do this starting at 50k and every 50K. Don't do it with older transmissions for the reasons espoused all over these threads. To be fair though, I am comfortable doing this because I have the aptitude to do so. So if someone doesn't have the appropriate skills I would think the D & F once every 20K or so would be sufficient and least wasteful. Just my opinion, not a condemnation of anyone who services their vehicle differently.

    EDIT: There actually is over 2 qts left in the pan when you take it off. Once a couple members corrected me on this, I thought about my experience and I remember being surprised and spill quite a bit on my driveway, so be aware when you drop take those last bolts out of the pan.
     
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    This is what I paid for the parts in Oct 22 Are they more now?

    35330-04010

    Transmission Filter

    $36.96



    35168-04010

    Pan Gasket

    $34.60
     
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    The Spec clearly states that dropping the Pan yeilds an additional 2.5 Quarts:
    https://www.ttguide.net/adjustment-932.html

    And that is exactly what I got out of mine (I measured it).
     
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    If it were a filter, there would be a mileage change time. There is none therefore it is a strainer. It prevents particles from recirculating into the transmission.

    You may care to educate yourself on the definition of a filter versus the definition of a strainer. Better yet take a course in transmission rebuild and repair or a course in hydraulics.

    however, you can call a hotdog a hamburger all you like, it does not make your point of view correct
     
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    Yeah guys strainers just need to be cleaned -yacht maintenance tech
    i’d also like to confirm the proper temp range. I think its 95-115 but am not sure can someone confirm?
     
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    I see that.
    I've also seen 94-113. 104-115 and a few others. Anyone know where the FSN for 3rd gen tacomas can be downloaded or at least viewed?

    Also, is pinning the trans thermostat open required on Tacomas?
     
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    95-113

    IMG_1549.jpg
     
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    Check-out time stamp 16:15 and then try and convince us all that’s only 3-4 ounces. I’ve done this myself last summer- same thing.

    https://youtu.be/4IYKJuW9rus
     
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    Toyota and I will continue to correctly refer to it as a "Transmission Filter".
    And as I have stated previously, you can call it whatever you wish, that's okay with me.
     
  19. May 7, 2023 at 7:53 AM
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    Everything you need to know is in this thread:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...n-fluid-level-check-diy.547455/#post-17758357

    For your 2021, follow the directions found in Post #230:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...-level-check-diy.547455/page-12#post-22645913
     
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    drain plug is still in and covered by what looks to be about half inch or an inch of fluid
     

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