Long Travel BS Thread

Yeah, that’s the importance of 6 point harnesses, HANS device and helmet.

 

a fully caged truck won’t have crumple zones and such so it will not absorb the energy from sudden loss of momentum like an accident at speed which is not great for occupants. But when caged you should be in proper seats with harnesses so impact with cage should not happen besides maybe a flailing limb or so. Stock seat belts allow you move sideways in a cab smash situation but not sure Toyota designed it to allow you to “get tossed in”. A cage is deadly if you are not properly restrained. When I slow mo rolled my last truck, no cab cage, the cab pushed in about 6”-8” on driver side and as it went over on to wheels to complete the trick my head slammed the now pushed in side so hard I saw stars. I vowed to never off-road without a proper cage, seats and harness again! Just my opinion from trolling forums and such.

 

I don’t know a lot of people that are willing to throw a 6 point, helmet, and HANS device on to go off-road. It’s definitely necessary if you have a full cage.

in the Lexus, I kept the factory 3 points for on the street, that way if I get into an accident (I’ve been in one in the car since it’s been caged) you don’t break your neck from lack of HANS. The half cage is behind the occupants so there’s no risk of head injury on the bars. On track? Just tossed the 3 points aside and threw on the 6 points, helmet, and Hans and you’re good to go.

 

I have 5 points in now, don’t have a HANS device or helmet. I do plan on getting my boys something like a HANS device. Thought about an open face helmet but low on list. If I’m going after it hard my boys will not be in the truck and prefer only a co-pilot no one else. A thought, the added weight of a helmet would make a Hans more needed so in my small brain thinking… no helmet no Hans needed lol.

this is a good topic as safety is important to me and surviving an accident and walking away is very important. My kids need me around for a while longer, wife… she would be ok without me as she assists to land another meal ticket.

 

Good point on the 5-point and cage...but will you 5-point on the street?

 

Beyond me why you would want to daily drive an off road truck with a cage. If your truck is at that level then you should have a tow rig, trailer, place to keep everything/work on etc. If you can’t afford all those things then does it really make sense to turn your only vehicle into a pure off road truck?

 

Did the caged Taco sell?

 

the problem of no Hans is if your body is harnessed down your head will fly forward in an accident breaking your neck. The safest no Hans no helmet option is your 3 point, but you still risk hitting your head on the cage.

 

I don’t have a trailer for it, yet, but it by far not a daily driver and not my only vehicle. I kept plates to drive it to from day runs. A trailer is in the list just don’t tell my wife. I have the tow pig, fifth wheel camper, play truck, a almost mid traveled 16 t4r and a work truck… plus her Honda… what’s another thing with wheels right

 

Absolutely not. 3 points only on the street. 5 point on the street is asking for a broken neck, even in a minor collision.

When I go hit in the Lexus, I was wearing the oem 3 point in the sparcos. It was a relatively minor accident but I walked away injury free. Had I been wearing a 5 point, I probably would've had a very sore if not broken neck from whiplash. 5 points keep your body too rigid without a Hans.

 

Yes! The real question is how tight will the shoulder straps be lol. Around the street I’m 4 pointing it and keep the shoulders snug not tight. Tommy Treggo of TTmororsports had that bad rollover when he blew a tire and I believe he was ejected due to not being strapped in tight or properly.

 

I was worried about my sons neck in accident/off-roading being in 5 points but now you got me thinking about me too lol.

I was looking a youth Leatt device for him and have him wear his dirt bike helmet.
https://leatt.com/us/shop/mtb/prote...MI6JHfifXo_gIVqCStBh3nuwdJEAAYAiAAEgInFfD_BwE

 

Ok since this is the current topic,

how many of you wear helmets and use any neck device with your caged truck? What helmets and devices are you using?

I’m expecting most don’t cuz safety third.

 

Scary. I personally wouldn't even do that. Why not just use your factory 3 point?

 

they don’t exist. Well I do have them in garage somewhere and could probably remount them. May be difficult with bolster of the PRP seats I’m running. Plus I thought the danger of hitting cage was worse with stock 3 points…

 

So goes full circle. Cage=no daily, no cage=no off-road? 5-Point dirt only but no 5-point without cage, 3-point on street but ....
I give up.
Do what you feel safe! I feel safe in my DD with no cage whether it be to and from work, desert, McDonalds, etc.

 

Because my truck isn't caged, yet, I'll answer this with the lexus rc.

On street:

3 Point factory seatbelt only. Cage is out of reach from my skull, so even in an accident there's no risk of me hitting my head, no difference than being in a stock rc. 3 point will do its job.

on track:

6 point harness used with HANS and a helmet. Hans and helmet protect my neck and head from injury due to the rigidity formed by the 6 point on my body.
If you were to use a 6 point on the street with no Hans or helmet, you'd be risking extreme neck injury in even in a minor collision. There's no risk of hitting your head on the cage in my RC so you wouldn't need to run a helmet, but you need a helmet for a Hans.

 

Pretty much lol.

 

@DIRT YOTA How old are your kids?
I wouldn't get in my race car (VW Class 9) without a helmet and wouldn't race without HNR. We do pre-run and test without HNR only because I've been racing since '89 and HNR's are 'new' to us and the class 9 is the slowest class out ther.

 

You'll have to put the lap portion of the belt through the harness hole in the bolster of the seat. Yeah, hitting your head is a risk, depends on the design of your cage. You'll have to decide what's best.