1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Death of a biological parent?

Discussion in 'Personal & Emotional Support' started by HuskerTrucker, Aug 22, 2023.

  1. Aug 22, 2023 at 10:45 AM
    #1
    HuskerTrucker

    HuskerTrucker [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2017
    Member:
    #226256
    Messages:
    339
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tom
    O,NE
    Vehicle:
    2013 DCSB
    Turned it into a 2023 SR5P 4Runner
    I dont know how to title the thread but I would love some input, or maybe just need to vent. I am a step-dad to 2 great kids, now 10 and 13. Their bio-dad lives 3 hours away and for the 5 years since the divorce(I've been in the picture almost 4) has been pretty non-existent. ONE weekend a month, never calls or texts them in between, never checked on sports or school stuff. He's dying of liver failure now, didnt give us much detail at all, but we know he might not be able to tell the kids goodbye. This went from dickhead responses last month, to no responses 2weeks ago, to my wife having to communicate w her exMIL because her ex cant. We're driving the kids down there tonight to what I can only imagine will be a horror show for them. Wtf do I tell the kids? I hate it, but for their sake I just cover for the a-hole right? He loved you dearly. He can hear you but cant respond. He'll be watching(I dont believe that but they dont need to know that yet).
     
  2. Aug 22, 2023 at 10:50 AM
    #2
    saajanpatel1

    saajanpatel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2022
    Member:
    #390318
    Messages:
    292
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Saaj
    MA
    Vehicle:
    2022 Tacoma Limited
    None
    I am sorry your step children have to go through this and am proud of you for taking the big step and looking after them. I believe the mother should say something to the kids unless she initiated to you that it must come from you. He has limited time so might as well make the end a bit positive rather than the kids living the rest of their life with a negative thought about their biological father. You can also put in words to the kids that this is a tough time for the family and if they need to talk, you will be there for them.

    Great job stepping up man, props to you. Also a great job for reaching out here for advice, that is what this community is about.
     
  3. Aug 22, 2023 at 10:51 AM
    #3
    Bishop84

    Bishop84 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2015
    Member:
    #172494
    Messages:
    11,676
    Gender:
    Male
    I don’t know what I’d do, but I hear you and it sounds like you’re an amazing dad. Keep it up
     
    tcBob, Wulf, TnShooter and 2 others like this.
  4. Aug 22, 2023 at 10:54 AM
    #4
    McHale

    McHale Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2023
    Member:
    #427960
    Messages:
    481
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2023 Toyota Tacoma TRD OR MGM Access Cab
    What do you tell them? Nothing.

    Be there for them and listen.
     
    MoneyMan55, tcBob, Wulf and 5 others like this.
  5. Aug 22, 2023 at 10:56 AM
    #5
    Extra Hard Taco

    Extra Hard Taco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2017
    Member:
    #232419
    Messages:
    4,358
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    R.J.
    Devil's Island
    Vehicle:
    2012 Tacoma TRD OR, 2007 DC (sold), 2003 TRD OR (sold)
    ARB Bumper, SOS sliders, SOS rear bumper, SOS skid plate. OME Lift. Some other stuff.
    ^this
     
    HondaGM likes this.
  6. Aug 22, 2023 at 10:59 AM
    #6
    Talon2006

    Talon2006 Well-Known Member Vendor

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2021
    Member:
    #370119
    Messages:
    338
    Do the kids know anything yet?

    I worked as an ICU nurse before, and am currently a CRNA. This is going to largely fall upon how emotionally mature the kids are. Can you seek out a child mental health professional on what they advise? The hospital may also have a child life specialist. This might be a great resource on obtaining help as far as what to do in this situation. The Child life specialist might also help accompany the children to their fathers death bed, and be better able to comfort them from experience.
     
  7. Aug 22, 2023 at 11:03 AM
    #7
    Rock Lobster

    Rock Lobster Thread Derailer

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2018
    Member:
    #275833
    Messages:
    13,200
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Dee Eff Dub
    Vehicle:
    I drive a Miata.
    It's difficult to deal with for sure. Fortunately 10 and 13 should be at an age where they will be able to understand, which really helps in processing grief.

    If I were in your shoes I would step back and play the quiet support role. Be there as a shoulder to lean on, but don't get too proactive in guiding them through their emotions. Have a conversation if they want to talk about it. If they want to withdraw, ask if they want to play a videogame for a minute, and give them space if they want it. If they withdraw for more than a couple of days, talk to their mom in private and get agreement on how best to approach.

    It's tough. Sorry bud.
     
  8. Aug 22, 2023 at 11:04 AM
    #8
    Vitamin J

    Vitamin J USN Vet

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2009
    Member:
    #25987
    Messages:
    503
    Gender:
    Male
    Oklahoma City
    Vehicle:
    2014 White DCSB PreRunner Texas Edition 4.0L V6
    Just cosmetic: Window Tint, radio knobs, temp control knobs, Tech-Deck, Tonneau bed cover, tail gate lock, de-chromed all badges inside and out, installed back up camera and custom bedside decals.
    You put those kids' feelings before yours...that is the Fatherly thing to do and sounds like you are handling it as such. I do agree with one of the comments above, should be their mother's responsibility...but good on you man. I wouldn't want to be in that situation either.
     
    Wulf likes this.
  9. Aug 22, 2023 at 11:07 AM
    #9
    Clearwater Bill

    Clearwater Bill Never answer an anonymous letter

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2014
    Member:
    #140097
    Messages:
    24,362
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Billy
    Largo Florida
    Vehicle:
    '13 5 lug AC w/convenience package
    A few OE parts from fancy trucks
    You are to be congratulated for caring about the kids and their emotions. Just remember in the long run most kids can handle the truth, gently spoken, rather than lies that have to be unwound later in life.

    They are old enough to hear the truth, particularly on the medically oriented items.

    Only a direct Q on that topic, from them, should get a response. And while it should be softly given, it should not be a lie. Don't turn him in to a martyr. They already know his interest in their lives is limited, don't make it something it's not.

    IF that's the condition you find him in, absolutely. Again, the truth.

    If you don't believe it, don't say it.
     
    Road_Warrior likes this.
  10. Aug 22, 2023 at 11:07 AM
    #10
    Jerry311SD

    Jerry311SD Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2016
    Member:
    #192481
    Messages:
    1,605
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jerry
    Ramona Ca SAN DIEGO
    Vehicle:
    2019 tacoma TRD Quicksand
    KDMaxx tune K&N drop in AFE catback Oil catch can Bill's 6112/5160 Dynomat whole inside of cab TRD skid plate
    YOU are their dad, Hard to miss what you didnt really have in the first place, I speak from experience.

    you are not a (step dad) you are the dad that stepped up.
     
    Wulf and Clearwater Bill like this.
  11. Aug 22, 2023 at 11:26 AM
    #11
    GHOST SHIP

    GHOST SHIP hates you.

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Member:
    #150537
    Messages:
    22,385
    First Name:
    GHOST
    What you’re doing now is the correct response. Be there for the kids and focus on what role you play in their lives- as a mentor and role model. They’re definitely old enough to somewhat process their own feelings about the bio-dad and my opinion is to never influence them with your own feelings about him. He’s always going to be a part of their lives even if he’s not around so as they develop and get older they will always be processing what that relationship was to them. I personally would stay away from saying things that you don’t believe in (“he’ll be watching…”).it will go a long way if you stay honest in their eyes. Just be there for them and listen as best you can.

    Have this conversation with their mother too so that you’re both on the same page if the kids do ask you something that may be difficult or uncomfortable. She likely has her own things to process with the whole situation so showing her support will definitely be noticed by her and the kids.
     
    Clearwater Bill and Wulf like this.
  12. Aug 22, 2023 at 11:39 AM
    #12
    Superdave1.0

    Superdave1.0 Grandma Dave

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2018
    Member:
    #277158
    Messages:
    6,166
    Gender:
    Male
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    LX470, 2025 Civic Si
    Just be there for them. There really isn't much you can say or do. Hopefully they get to see their father before he passes. They will at least get some closure, if they can spend some time with him.
     
    MoneyMan55 and ColoradoTJ like this.
  13. Aug 22, 2023 at 12:05 PM
    #13
    ColoradoTJ

    ColoradoTJ Retired cat herder Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2018
    Member:
    #265097
    Messages:
    10,131
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    3500 Duramax, Roush Mustang, Jeep Crawler
    We are very honest with our kids. Life is tough and there are no roads to happiness paved with rainbows and skittles. When something important needs to be shared, we sit down and tell them straight up what's happening/happened, let them process, and ensure them we are there for them no matter what. Since 2019, we have had to do this very thing three times for family members and four for animals. It doesn't get easier but my kids have said they appreciated us treating them like adults. (Kids are now 12 & 14)

    I personally resented my parents later on in life after finding out certain things were not true or at best "sugar coated."

    You sound like a good person Tom and loving father to your kids. They probably don't know what a father is supposed to be, but due to you they know how a father should be.
     
    MoneyMan55 and Superdave1.0 like this.
  14. Aug 22, 2023 at 3:53 PM
    #14
    ColoradoTJ

    ColoradoTJ Retired cat herder Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2018
    Member:
    #265097
    Messages:
    10,131
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    3500 Duramax, Roush Mustang, Jeep Crawler
    Well, had to do it again a few minutes ago. Neighbor died and my family was close with her. They knew she was sick (that honesty paying off) and took it well. IMG_2276.png
     
  15. Aug 22, 2023 at 4:01 PM
    #15
    MoneyMan55

    MoneyMan55 Licensed Master Electrician

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2017
    Member:
    #208306
    Messages:
    4,054
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Doug
    South Central PA
    Vehicle:
    2017 DCSB SR5 Blazing Blue Pearl
    Short version. Be there as their oak as you are doing now. Went through a similar situation with an absent 'Dad' until a child support order was granted. No opinions, there is plenty of time in life for the kids questions as it dawns on them the real situation. Just be there....
     
    Road_Warrior likes this.
  16. Aug 23, 2023 at 5:50 AM
    #16
    HuskerTrucker

    HuskerTrucker [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2017
    Member:
    #226256
    Messages:
    339
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tom
    O,NE
    Vehicle:
    2013 DCSB
    Turned it into a 2023 SR5P 4Runner
    Thanks all. I appreciate it.
     
    saajanpatel1 and MoneyMan55 like this.
To Top