Rolling back while stopped on a hill

This always happens when I'm stopped on a hill. Any way to prevent from rolling back like this? I thought there was a roll back locking feature but maybe not for OR trim?
https://youtube.com/shorts/MmMmFHueeZQ?si=bfEeQySsPto3JSSx

 

Well, you could always use the handbrake like most people do.

 

Is this manual or auto? I haven't seen that alert pop up in my MT, but if it is an MT then no hill assist does not come on the ORs.

 

I have an automatic and it actually locks you in place on steep inclines. Never rolled back and have never had that warning.

 

try letting the clutch slightly engage before taking your foot off the brake. just barely, not too much or you'll stall it. it takes practice to master the technique. every vehicle is different.

 

Not to sound like a smart ass but you could just learn how to drive. Manual or auto it's not hard to do.

 

took a while for me to learn hill-starts in a manual without stalling or smoking the clutch

 

He has an auto trans

 

oh okay. not all trims have the hill-start assist feature.

"■Operating conditions of hill-start assist control
When the following four conditions are met, the hill-start assist control will
operate:
●The shift lever is in a position other than P or N (when starting off forward/
backward on an upward incline).
●The vehicle is stopped.
●The accelerator pedal is not depressed.
●The parking brake is not engaged.
■Automatic system cancelation of hill-start assist control
The hill-start assist control will turn off in any of the following situations:
●The shift lever is moved to P or N.
●The accelerator pedal is depressed.
●The parking brake is engaged.
●Approximately 2 seconds elapse after the brake pedal is released"

 

There is, it takes a second and a half to take over. As mentioned, you could use the parking brake, your left foot on the brake, jump the accelerator quicker, etc.

 

I always felt that hill hold is a feature that the driver shouldn't ever have to see.

My practice is that, hill or flat, as soon as I come to a stop I actually press the brake harder. That's my default idling position. The reason being is that if I'm jolted by a surprise rear ender there's still enough pressure on the brake to hopefully keep me from rolling through the intersection.

Once I go, it's brake-to-gas in less than 1/2 second. If it's on a hill I try to get that time down to under 1/4 second. The only time a foot is off the pedal is when I'm reducing speed through coasting. At a stop, either the foot brake or the hand brake is engaged at all times.

I think a lot of people use this feature as a substitute to hold their vehicle at a stoplight. Personal opinion- I find that to be a fundamentally incorrect practice.

 

OP, it's not clear what you are trying to do in that video. I don't see the RPMs go up, so I assume you didn't press the throttle pedal. If you want to stand still, you need to press the brake pedal. If you want to go forward, you need to press the accelerator pedal. Simple as that.

I have read that the OR and Pros with the automatic transmission have a hill assist feature that makes a lot of noise when it activates and it is disconcerting at first. Don't worry. It's normal.

I've also read that the other trims with an automatic transmission have a different hill assist feature that quietly locks the truck in place.

My OR with a manual transmission has no hill-assist feature at all. If I take my foot off the brake, it will happily roll backwards and off the cliff behind me.

In all cases, I do not think you should rely on the hill-assist feature. It's there to help you when you screw up.

 

No need to flame OP, he's asking a legitimate question tons of people have already asked, and no one ever gives a legitimate answer, because they don't know it. Just because your hill assist doesn't let you budge, your pedal reaction time is faster, or whatever, doesn't mean OP is clueless.

To answer the question, the AT OR model (and PRO's I believe) use an electronic brake booster (instead of vacuum booster). Therefore, the "hill assist" feature (if you want to call it that for OR/PRO's) works differently. If you feel bold, let it knock and crunch through that backwards downhill process for about a full two seconds, you'll see how the "hill assist" works. So simply put, OP you have "hill assist," but it doesn't work like you think it would (like the other trimmed models). It gives you those nasty crawl control noises until it eventually locks you in place. Realistically, about two seconds of rolling backwards is too long for any of us to consider it a useful feature, but it is in fact there.

Side note, I've always just two footed it on steep inclines (like a boat ramp). Left foot on brake, slowly releasing, while slowly engaging the throttle with right foot. I'm trying to get away from two footing and using the handbrake instead, because I've actually read a few stories about people stalling their truck trying to engage throttle/brake at the same time (other brands of cars and accidents brought on this fun "safety feature"). A slick boat ramp isn't exactly the place I wanna be stalling out at, so I'm trying to use handbrake instead of two footing these days. Haven't actually heard of it happening to anyone in that context, but I don't wanna be the first.

 

I’ve never driven an auto that has hill hold, always just held my foot on the brake. Having it some sort of automatic thing feels like a solution looking for a problem to me.

 

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Just want to make sure all the basics are covered.

 

One other comment... the OR AT hill-assist is probably designed to allow some amount of backwards motion, because it is required in an off-road setting. If you were stuck on an up-hill obstacle it would be super debilitating if you could not roll backwards at all.

 

This is the first car I've owned with one. I suspect its there to protect the transmission. There was one time where I rolled back on purpose - I was backing my trailer on a wildly sloped campsite and foolishly thought that the torque converter had enough slip to allow a 10 foot slow roll -

yeah, the truck did not like that at all. It lit the dashboard, stalled itself out, and then called me an idiot for trying. I'm guessing that the torque converter is a little more sensitive than granddad's old loosey goosey chevrolet.

 

Oh. I never tried that, always put it in R to go backwards. But that makes sense, I’m sure they’ve received complaints about that.

 

^^ this was worth repeating - well written and with empathy. nice!!

it happens to me sometimes. since i also drive my 2006 equally, my brain sometimes forgets what truck i am in. that "crunch" is abnormal sounding for sure.

 

Yeah, it was one of those days where I was hunting for the right combination of chocks/blocks to level the trailer, and got impatient with rolling it back and forth. Happened once. Lesson learned, won't do it again.