3rd Gen hitch weight

What is the tow rating for a DCSB 4x4 with v6 and tow package? I think it should be able to pull over 6,000 but I'm not sure what the tongue weight allowed is. I already have a RedArc tow pro Liberty installed. not sure what else I would need. We are looking to upgrade from my 2009 Coachman Pop up which is in good shape but lacks some things we want like AC, a Potty, and a N/S bed where you don't have to crawl over the your partner.

This is one contender: https://www.bluedogrv.com/product/used-2018-kz-sportsmen-classic-160qb-2304311-29

it as a 375 pound hitch weight and is just under 3,000 dry weight. I think the truck should be ok towing that... its also about at the top end of the Wrangler's ability.
Would I need a weight distribution hitch or sway bars with this also?

 

In 7 hours I can tell you. Im taking my 14 day old tacoma (489 miles on the odometer) and 2022 oz sportsmen 170mb camping at 5 pm. You will be fine. I used to tow it with a dodge grand caravan. Which was also 100% fine

New Red arc liberty and old weight distribution hitch I reconfigured for the tacoma.

Having installed the weight distribution hitch properly. I like how the truck doesnt sink at all in rear suspension. The anti sway properties are undisputable too. I've been in heavy cross winds on bridges 100 foot in the air. Didn't sway at all. Do you need a wdh? No. The Tacoma is rated for double what you and I want to tow. Lot of people will speak with much authority on tow capacity and shifting and scare you. Not sure why but I dismiss them after all the research I did over a year when I picked the tacoma over a Chevy Silverado or an f150. I looked at all campers and biggest I'd ever want is 4500 lbs. I love our kZ 170mb. If you like your wife the size is perfect for us and one of our dogs

 

That's sure good news. The KZ 170mb isn't all that different than the one I'm going to look at. Would love to hear how your trip goes with the Truck . I really want something that will tow easy and handle nicely. we don't have any sway bars or weight Distro on the pop up and it tows easy except a few times I've experienced some sway but a tap on the trailer brakes ended it fast. I'm all for safety and good highway towing so the WD hitch would be something id want.

Hope you have a great trip! AND Congrats on the new truck too!

 

Oh wow.. ok yea.. I clicked on your link after I typed that response. Your 180QB is the EXACT same trailer as mine (bathroom is reconfigured) the only difference is mine has a murphy bed that tilts up and there is a couch below it. Beyond that it is the SAME exact thing. Yes. I recommend that camper 100% and our trucks are the PERFECT tow unit for that RV. I want to say our truck can handle more than double the weight for tongue weight and the tow capacity is 6400 lbs (So BOTH are less than half what a tacoma capacity is.)

You are going to hate that mattress. if you wind up getting it.. Ill save you a couple hundo by giving you what I wound up with after trying 2 before it. lol

Why did you pick the redarc liberty and not the elite? I couldnt see the purpose of the elite. Im not driving offroad but even if I was I could turn the dial to make it press the brakes harder or I could dial it to zero and it wouldnt use trailer brakes? Never did get an answer from my research.

 

well I picked the tow pro Liberty because of how sleek and near factory the install looked. also it will control up to a double axle trailers brakes. the Elite will do Triple axles and has those off road towing features you talked about. Both not relevant to my useage cases. The tacoma can't tow anything big enough to need 3 axles and I don't plan to tow a camper way out to BLM lands out west and Boondock. The Liberty was perfect. at the time I bought the tow pro Liberty I was working to sell my Jeep Liberty CRD that the Tacoma was to replace. I had a Tekonsha Primus IQ installed in that to deal with the popup's electric brakes. I just could not seem to find a place I liked to place that in the Tacoma so I let the Primus IQ go with the Jeep when it sold. The TowPro Liberty has been in my truck since new (3years) it's worked well. actually once I was camping and the thing started to blink some weird pattern. I looked it up online when I stopped at a rest area and the thing was trying to tell me I had a brake light out on the trailer. Checked and sure enough it was a burned out bulb. Had no idea it could sense that.

What was the issue with the Mattress? I know there's many options for RV mattresses on Amazon, some folding. I actually had an issue with our popups being to thin and wimpy, but since it has to close up we couldn't have a thick mattress. I got a 3" thick memory foam egg create topper. that added enough comfort and it still wasn't too thick to close the roof down.

 

Ahh see i didnt really read the redarc manual I DID put it in the truck because I saw all those light codes that COULD happen. Maybe Ill read that when I get to the campsite. Thank you for that info. wow.. a LOT better than the no frills ones the camper store threw into my minivan. (It worked.. but that is all it did)

Yea I went and got a 4 inch topper on my KZ mattress.. I TRIED to like it and I was like.. Ill hold off for a while but the world of difference came when I got this. My hip bone just ground right into the wood platform below but throwing the mattress and that topper out.. it was like I was back in my house.

The topper cost 100 dollars and was a waste. Then I just went and got the mattress (mine is short queen yours seems to be a full queen but I like the innerspring hybrid. We have just a memory foam in the house. Both are comfortable. The inner spring is better for "Adult activities" whereas the other one just holds you..

 

That looks like an excellent mattress. something I will have to look into if we buy this one that's a 2018. Being used I'd want a new one or like with my pop-up I took an extraction carpet and upholstery cleaner to all the beds and seats. You never know what Adult activities the previous owner did.

I have a sleep number C4 at home and had a full foam one before.

 

Towing capacity 6400lb
Tongue Weight 640lb
Payload 1155lb (approximate, the yellow door tag will tell you exactly.)

Tongue weight is deducted from the payload. All contents of the truck and passengers get deducted from the payload.

The 375lb tongue weight probably does not include the propane tank and battery so add some weight for that.

Per the manual:
● If the gross trailer weight is over 2000 lb. (907 kg), a sway control
device with sufficient capacity is required.
● If the gross trailer weight is over 5000 lb. (2268 kg), a weight-distributing
hitch with sufficient capacity is required.

Some will say they won't tow without a WDH and some will say the manual says I don't need it so I don't use one. At 3000lb dry Plus all your stuff in the trailer 500-1000lb, I would use one forto reduce sag and for sway control. There are many threads where you can read the debates.

 

I had some of these concerns recently too but figured it was worth a shot. I have a '16 TRD Sport 3.5l with tow package. Installed a Redarc tow pro and the Andersen weight distribution hitch (still needs some adjustment, sitting low in the picture). Yesterday we brought home a 25 foot dual axle camper that is 3900 pounds dry weight. Towed perfectly. I also have a Bluetooth OBD reader for temps and such and nothing was out of the ordinary while towing. I kept it in S up to 4th gear since there is no way 5th would actually hold for any amount of time. I used exactly double the fuel on the trip vs normal driving. As long as you don't try to be the fastest on the highway, a Tacoma is decent for towing. My drive included a fairly steep climb 2km long and it pulled in 3rd with no problem.

 

Seems that would be a real handful in a crosswind.

And it will be interesting (for you) to see what additional damage a headwind does to the MPG.

Hopefully you won't travel much in those conditions.

 

@Northern41 that's a longer trailer than I expected you could tow, but light for its size. Cool that you feel it handles it fine and no Temps got out of normal range.

Definitely you can't be the king of road towing. I always even with the pop up stay at the 65 mph speed limit around here or just stay at 65 or under if the speed limits are 70 or there's incline to climb.

 

It might be a struggle with some wind but the way I look at it, we are not in a rush to get anywhere when towing. Fuel mileage is garbage either way so if it gets worse, oh well. We are in a good place where there are some great campgrounds only a few hours away so we are not driving full days.

I'll try to remember to update after our first trip if there are any other issues.

 

so had a good headwind the whole time on Friday. I barely felt the trailer there other than the normal porpoising that you have when you tow anything.
It went really well. Ill be leaving for home in about 4 hours. There is going to be a 15-20 mph tail wind (maybe not when we get inland.) I did 60-65 mph and even the Toyota spyware app says I drove well. Felt much better than the Grand Caravan which was closer to it's limit. 10 mph but I think it is uphill pretty much the whole way the way we came. (Into the foothills of the Appalachian mountains and Pennsylvania.

 

yeah see when I picked a tacoma for my truck if I was going to upgrade I looked at the weights of campers and said.. yea.. 4500 lbs seems like the largest my wife and I would ever want in the forseeable future. Honestly we are fine with what we have right now. Now I feel like I can hook up and travel when I want to travel.

 

I have an access cab Sport w/tow pkg and this is my trailer: https://coachmenrv.com/travel-trailers/freedom-express-select/17BLSE/7543

It's a dual axle toy hauler so designed to have more weight in front, note the hitch weight. Recently took it from WA to TX through all the SW states and averaged about 6-7MPG because the little v6 is not quite powerful enough to be comfortable passing or going up hills and that sloped front of the trailer still feels like a parachute. I also have the redarc liberty and everything worked great. Two things:

1. no matter what the dealer says, LUBE YOUR TRAILER HUBS - mine was brand new and when I got it home one of the wheels was almost dry...
2. make sure you have a wireless tire pressure unit in the cab to monitor tire pressure and temps, very important. Mine actually came with one..

 

This is not off really topic, but not specific to camper trailers, so sorry to pull away from that here - it’s on a boat/trailer. But I wanted to ask since you all are discussing this and it’s fresh. I’ve researched here on the board and can’t really get an answer on this size of boat, as it seems most are pulling smaller boats with their Tacoma.

But, I’m looking at a 23’ pontoon boat (total length on trailer is 33’), dry weight is 3200lbs, 5700 avg. loaded weight. Dealer says 5000lb boat is probably a good average. I won’t be long hauling this, just back and forth to the ramp which is a mile away. Will my 2019 TRD OR be ok getting back up the ramp with this pontoon?

It’s within the specs of the GVWR, not sure on the tongue weight, but would you do it? We usually have a 3/4ton truck to pull our current boat, but my parent’s just bought a camper trailer and may have the truck so may need to find a lake truck if ol Cavalry Blue won’t be up for it.

Thanks all.

 

My trailer is much smaller but I still only got 12.5 on my first trip out. But the way I see it 99% of my driving is commuting and it actually does ok there. I average about 20 back and forth to work. So in the big picture it’s ok. And I much prefer the Tacoma to the f150 I had for just getting from a to b.

 

Don’t. Payload tells you what you really need to know. Minimum safe tongue weight is 10% so 570. Look at occupants and and anything else like hitch and if you’re not over, you’ll be dangerously close.