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How to identify lug pattern?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Eagle200, Sep 24, 2023.

  1. Sep 24, 2023 at 1:01 PM
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    Eagle200

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    I bought a "squaredrop" camper that does not have a spare but is supposed to have the same lug pattern as my tacoma so it can use the tacoma full size spare if needed. The camper tires have 6 lugs but when I measure them they look a little less distance apart then my regular tacoma tire. (like .5 to 1 inch difference in the space between the lug nuts).

    Is there anyway I can tell if I have the correct lug pattern on the camper tire for a tacoma spare without going through the trouble of removing the tacoma spare and putting it on the camper? Thanks for any advice
     
  2. Sep 24, 2023 at 1:02 PM
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    There are three common 6 lug sizes in use that I know of, and probably seven sizes in total. And that's just the lug pattern: matching both lug and hub diameter is a difficult proposition.

    I would just get a dedicated spare for the trailer. Having interchangable tires is overrated. I prefer running trailer tires for the trailer, truck tires for the truck. Trailer tires run at lower temperatures, they won't wear down in their 5 year service span, and a D ply trailer will be even more puncture resistant than an equivalent truck. But doing that, even if I had equal wheels, they are not compatible.

    Knock on wood, I've never had an issue with my D ply radial-trails. But if I did, I have a spare for each vehicle, a tire repair kit, and an inflator. I'm comfortable towing it through the volcanic rocks and mesquite thorns with that much.
     
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    you dont want to find out when you are broke down in the boonies......physically try it
     
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    REPLACE YOUR TRAILER TIRES EVERY 5 YEARS FROM THE DATE OF MANUFACTURE STAMPED ON THE SIDE, NOT DATE OF PURCHASE/INSTALLATION.

    my family has 2 distinct family vacations where we tried outrunning this rule. 1 mangled a boat trailer fender with all 3 tires(2 mounted, 1 spare). the other blew out 12 tires(5 vehicle tires, 4 trailer tires, 2 spares) in a 2 hour trip.
     
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    I'm overly anal about tires every 5, bearings/races every 3, grease change every 1. I also run wireless tire pressure/temperature monitors and I spot check the hubs every time I stop for gas.

    I really, really do not want to be a member of the roadside one-wheel club.
     
  7. Oct 14, 2023 at 6:13 AM
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    can you explain what you mean by "spot check the hubs" I am new to this. thanks
     
  8. Oct 14, 2023 at 6:18 AM
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    Also ill get a temp monitor. what temp becomes concerning? Thank you
     
  9. Oct 14, 2023 at 6:22 AM
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    Would this be stamped where the PSI etc is listed on the tire? I cant seem to find it. The tires are BFgoodrich Baja champion
     
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    On a 3000 miler road trip at the minute. At every fill up I feel each hub with the back of my hand. If one is too hot to touch, that means that something's wrong with the bearings.

    Alternatively, if I remember to bring one, I use an IR temperature gun to read them instead of getting my hands grimey. They shouldn't read hotter than 120, or at least one hub shouldn't be more than 20-30 degrees hotter than the others.

    And if you want to go overboard, get a set of wireless tire pressure monitors. Those give real time tire pressures and temperatures, and will alarm if something goes off spec.
     
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    All your wheel specs can be found here... wheel-size.com

    Should be very easy to navigate through the site.
     
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    thanks
     
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    thank you but its more about confirming the tires on my camper are the same lug pattern as the tacoma
     
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    I wouldn't bother with the spare, it's faster to just take a wheel off the truck, one off the trailer and test fit. You need to know how to jack, remove and secure both the trailer and the truck anyway, so this will offer a quick practice in good conditions. Because actual flats don't worry about the conditions they happen in.
     
  15. Oct 14, 2023 at 1:11 PM
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    Just because the lug pattern is the same doesn’t guarantee it will fit. I think you need to test it. Plus it will be good practice.
     
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    Is there a reason you just can’t see if your spare fits? Why make this more difficult than it has to be?
     
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    Ya, try one of the 4 tires on the truck!
     
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    Off subject a bit but I can’t stand an actual trailer tire. Cheapest pos tire out there. We now run Michelin radials instead of “trailer grade” tires. Also can’t stand when a tire shop doesn’t balance tires because it’s going on a trailer. Now I check for weight on the tires when leaving.
     
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    o_O
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    This thread and my own hubris cursed me!! I am now an unproud member of the roadside one wheel club. :anonymous::anonymous:



    It wasn't tires though. It was the springs that decided to give out right before I was about to cross the ferry to Ocracoke.

    PXL_20231017_212447090.jpg

    Yeah, my trailer has had a hard life. I should have seen that one coming. :anonymous::anonymous::anonymous:



    But hey. I found a great use for the tiny Tacoma jack. This got me rolling enough to move the trailer 60 miles to the nearest parts store, with hopes that they would know who to contact. (Calling the nearest three mechanics got a "not interested in doing trailers, you should have it towed to Norfolk")

    PXL_20231017_130200684.jpg

    Turns out, the NAPA I found just happened to have exactly two springs in stock, in my weird trailer size. Sometimes camping is magical, but for very unusual reasons.
     
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