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grabby brakes

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by LtDan12a, Oct 4, 2023.

  1. Oct 4, 2023 at 8:35 PM
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    LtDan12a

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    Hey gang-

    I've owned my 2015 DCSB for about 4 months now, and before I bought it, the dealer replaced the front pads and rotors. Compared to every other vehicle I've owned, these are the touchiest, grabbiest brakes I've ever experienced. I think I'm going to swap the pads out for some OEM ones, but wanted to see if this is an issue with Taco's that I just don't know about... THANKS!!
     
  2. Oct 4, 2023 at 8:45 PM
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    TnShooter

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    I bet you have the electric brake booster.
    I’d be happy they are “grabby”.

    The brakes on the vacuum assisted trucks are not too good.
     
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  3. Oct 4, 2023 at 8:48 PM
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    Bishop84

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    I prefer the offroad booster, but it takes some getting used to.

    Pad type won't change anything, you will eventually get the hang of it.
     
  4. Oct 5, 2023 at 1:37 AM
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    Arries289

    Arries289 Yo!

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    My OR was pretty grabby from new. First time I drove it, the brakes got my attention quick. I changed pads and rotors a few weeks ago (OEM pads/rotors) and, for whatever reason, they are less grabby now. I like the brakes though. No real complaints from me.
     
  5. Oct 5, 2023 at 4:08 AM
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    The dealer replaced the pads and rotors and you want to “swap the pads out for some OEM ones” …what kind of pads did the dealer use?
     
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  6. Oct 5, 2023 at 6:09 AM
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    As others have mentioned, the problem is that you have the electric brake booster. Pads and rotors make almost no difference to how grabby or effective the brakes are in most day-to-day driving. Pads are mostly differentiated in terms of longevity, noise, dusting, wet/cold performance, and their ability to resist fade in demanding applications. But if you're just driving around town and your brakes are too grippy, the problem is simple: it's that pesky electric brake booster!

    So, don't bother swapping pads -- waste of time and money. Instead, swing by my driveway--I'll give you a gently used older-style vacuum booster for free, and even help you install it. All I'll need in return is that problematic electric brake booster, you know, so I can safely dispose of it for you. We'll also have to swap out your ABS module, just for compatibility, and maybe some other minor things. Say, what kind of wheels do you run? Don't worry though, I'll help you through the whole process.

    This will totally fix your grabby brakes, and deliver that classic stopping performance that hasn't been available on most other cars and trucks for decades.

    We're talking:
    - Predictably smooth braking... mush that pedal down all you want, these bad boys won't grab!
    - Reduced tire wear when stopping!
    - Free cardiovascular workouts during traffic jams!
    - Passive antilock brake technology!
    - Experience history! Drum brakes were invented over 120 years ago, and to see first-hand why they fell out of favor, try backing your truck down a steep hill in the rain!
    - Feeling lost? Reconnect with God through spontaneous urgent prayer!

    PM me if you're interested.
     
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  7. Oct 5, 2023 at 6:18 AM
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    ZColorado

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    I too have EXTREMELY grabby brakes. Mine is near impossible to stop like a normal person. I've driven other toyota electronic brake boosted vehicles (fj cruisers) and they have normal, but strong brakes. Everytime I asked this same question I was told it was normal.... I disagree, my experience is NOT normal. I press the brake and get a squish sound, then WHAM-grab. And if I brake quickly it will chirp the tires... and I am on 35s.

    I've swapped pads and rotors, and i've bled the system multiple times. I've changed many many brakes and boosters on other vehicles. I am not a novice with car maintenance and repair.

    I'd love to figure out what I can fix or replace to make this better. It's too bad the brake booster assembly is so damn expensive.

    If you find a solution let me know!

    This problem makes me hate driving my truck, thats not an exaggeration or inexperience with toyota "strong" brakes.
     
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  8. Oct 5, 2023 at 6:48 AM
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    Have you considered upgrading to the vacuum booster? Your brakes will never be too grabby with this premium system!

    I can hook you up with a complete, gently used system from an '05. All I'd need in return would be your complete electric booster system. Like all of it. You know... for safe disposal.

    I can also help with another easy upgrade, we just have to remove 24 nuts and swap four parts, then you will have better gas mileage and acceleration too.

    PM me if you're interested.








    Edit: Sorry for trolling. Hope you guys get to the bottom of this abnormality in an otherwise vastly superior brake system. In the meantime though, keep an eye on that rear-view--lots of us careening around with the classic booster, better not slam on the brakes if we're behind you!
     
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  9. Oct 5, 2023 at 7:31 AM
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    mikalcarbine

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    What bugs me the most is other Toyota vehicles with the same electric ABS/BSC brake system like the 4runner have a totally different and normal brake feel.
     
  10. Oct 5, 2023 at 8:29 AM
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    LtDan12a

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    I was hoping the OEM pads would have a little less initial bite, but reading here, it looks like what I’m feeling is pretty normal. I agree that I would probably get used to them, but I drove three other vehicles a lot more than my truck, so there’s a “calibration” that needs to happen every time I get in it hahaha
     
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