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2019-23 Audio Harness

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by Bill400, Oct 8, 2023.

  1. Oct 8, 2023 at 9:41 AM
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    Bill400

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    Can anyone provide the part number for the wiring harness shown in the photo?
    Subject is a 2023 Tacoma SR5 with "Premium Audio" but Toyota forgot the woofer!

    Alternatively, Manufacturer and part numbers for white and black connectors?
    TE? Aptiv? Molex?

    Thanks!

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  2. Oct 8, 2023 at 9:52 AM
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    If they forgot the woofer, sounds like a trip back to the dealership and have them get you 1.
     
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  3. Oct 8, 2023 at 3:27 PM
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    destin_meeks

    destin_meeks I used to fix people's crappy stereos

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    “Premium audio” only refers to the head unit. The JBL system is the amplified version. If yours says premium and currently plays music, you don’t have the jbl system and aren’t missing a woofer
     
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    what is the harness in the picture? i thought the jbl system was an entirely different vehicle harness.
     
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    My assumption (which may be incorrect) is that the picture posted is not a picture of the specific vehicle he’s working on. That’s why he’s asking for part numbers for the connectors. Again, may be wrong here. I’m guessing he didn’t see a sub behind the seat, then found a pic of the jbl wiring harness online
     
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    that harness in the picture looks like the connectors to the JBL factory amp.
     
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    That is correct
     
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    Thanks guys! You are correct destin_meeks, the photo is an edited capture from this forum. I'm looking for the harness part number to aid a search for a salvage part.
    Easier than the alternative of locating connectors and building from scratch.
    "Toyota forgot it" was in jest. The Premium Audio, Dynamic Navigation and Rear parking assist sonar package ($1700 of bloat) nominally included the "Premium Audio".
    Head unit part number reports (on screen) as 86140-02400. Toyota parts says that is "other than premium". However, Toyota parts also lists 86140-02410 as "premium".
    Bottom line: For $1700 I was expecting premium audio, as stated. I received no woofer and suspect that what I received was advertising hype.

    So, looking for the wiring harness part number with connections, as shown,
     

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  9. Oct 9, 2023 at 1:49 PM
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    Well again, the “premium audio” is not in reference to the audio quality, but the audio features (cam, Bluetooth, XM, usb, etc)

    the JBL amplified system has the same premium head unit features but adds an amplifier for all 6 speakers and a subwoofer.

    having said that, the jbl head unit is NOT the same as the non-jbl head unit, so you cannot add the jbl parts and pieces to the non-jbl head unit.
     
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  10. Oct 9, 2023 at 5:37 PM
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    Thanks Destin,
    Reviewing the TIS published wiring diagrams for systems with internal vs external amplifiers, the connections looked possible.
    On closer inspection, I see that TX+/- provides control/communications between the head and amp.

    Thank you for the heads up!
     
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  11. Oct 9, 2023 at 5:52 PM
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    They share just enough connectors to make you think it might work!

    the jbl variant of the head unit doesn’t actual have an internal amplifier. That data signal contains the audio itself along with volume and fade/balance/EQ. It sends that data signal to the amp and then the amp drives all 7 speakers. It can be frustrating at times for sure
     
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  12. Oct 10, 2023 at 3:26 PM
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    So, the 86140-04200 head unit comes in two configurations? With or without the Navigation module.
    When provided with the navigation module, apparently programming is different which includes HD radio, and much more?
    Does anyone know if the differences are defined somewhere?
     
  13. Oct 10, 2023 at 5:14 PM
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    I believe the HD radio gets some data from the satellite antenna, which is also used for nav and XM. I’m not entirely sure if that’s right and there’s not a lot of info out there about the radios so it’s hard know
     

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