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EV’s Have Officially Lost to the Tacoma!!

Discussion in 'General Tacoma Talk' started by Philhutch80, Oct 28, 2023.

  1. Oct 28, 2023 at 5:15 AM
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    Philhutch80

    Philhutch80 [OP] Well-Known Member

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    Sorry boys, but all your EV crap is for naught. Not only are those vehicles not environmentally as friendly as a Tacoma, but they end up costing way more to you the owner.
     
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  2. Oct 28, 2023 at 12:29 PM
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    Hogleg918

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    Looks like a totally neutral website too….
     
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  3. Oct 28, 2023 at 12:40 PM
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    JasonLee

    JasonLee Hello? I'm a truck.

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    It’s “official” that you “found” supporting “evidence” that you are “right”. o_O
     
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  4. Oct 28, 2023 at 1:27 PM
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    We still dont know what we will do with the dead batteries. Or is there a way to rebuild them like a motor?

    I am not opposed to EV. Just concerned with the idea of building a plane while we fly. If we dont know how we will disregard these batteries, that concerns me. But i guess it cant be any different as to how we disregard vehicles.
     
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  5. Oct 28, 2023 at 1:28 PM
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    RedWings44

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    Battery technology is constantly evolving. But, in a lot of cases, they are being recycled or repurposed.
     
  6. Oct 28, 2023 at 1:30 PM
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    Amazing how much extra bogus they have to add to make it look worse
     
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  7. Oct 28, 2023 at 1:31 PM
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    Scrovak

    Scrovak Ask me about TacoBomba's tonneau cover

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    Most motors don't get rebuilt. Don't let perfection be the enemy of progress. Are EVs perfect? Nah. But the more we incorporate them, the better they get. No one was getting 35mpg in 1908, but progress and constant improvement resulted in that evolution, mutually beneficial to consumers, the encironment, and the industry. Hell, EVs are already evolving to get higher distances per charge, and modular celled batteries, so you can replace a singe bad cell instead of having to replace the entire battery. They're also working on recyclable and reworkable batteries, but the fewer people who buy and invest capital into EVs, the less money there will be for improvement.
     
  8. Oct 28, 2023 at 1:39 PM
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    Scrovak

    Scrovak Ask me about TacoBomba's tonneau cover

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    To be fair, the batteries we already use in ICE vehicles already have that problem, and unlike EVs, no one seems to be taking serious steps to recovering them or improving them much.
     
  9. Oct 28, 2023 at 6:17 PM
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    are you saying flooded lead acid batteries have these same problems? most metal recycling yards take those without a problem. but try getting any of those same yards to take a lithium pack...
     
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  10. Oct 28, 2023 at 6:28 PM
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    b_r_o

    b_r_o Gnar doggy

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    This fair and balanced opinion brought to you by the state of TX lol. I'd love to see their chart explaining how they rape utility customers over electricity prices whenever they get in a jam
     
  11. Oct 28, 2023 at 6:34 PM
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    Well over 90% of a battery is actually recyclable. It is all about market forces. When it becomes industry driven and profitable, there will be a market for recycling ev batteries. We are still in the infancy of all this. The irony is it is usually market forces that end up benefitting the environment.

    European countries with smaller cars and tighter environmental regulations didn’t change because they wanted to. They had to. Scarcity of resources forced much higher gas prices several decades ago, resulting in smaller, more economical cars. Similar thing with smaller houses in many parts of Europe. Less land, less resources. Smaller houses.

    We just aren’t quite there yet but it’s coming.
     
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    You know what’s interesting?
    The TPPF that did the study.
    Care to guess where they get most of their funding?

    And there you have it…..
    Like everything else, make it fit the narrative………
    IMG_0382.jpg
     
  13. Oct 28, 2023 at 7:09 PM
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    Yes, yes they do.
    And the ones that agree, will consider it “fact”.
    The ones that disagree, the majority won’t even research why they should disagree.

    I try my best to look at things “neutrally”.
    That’s honestly why I try not to even look anymore.
    It makes my head hurt trying to “figure it out”.
     
  14. Oct 28, 2023 at 7:14 PM
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    b_r_o Gnar doggy

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    Texas's click bait game is on point
     
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    lol. really gives you pause for thought on who the 'smart' people really are.. i never went to college-- i would've thrown something at a professor, assuming i could not get bored long enough to try to learn anything in the first place.

    at the height of the pandemic, when everyone was gloving/masking up, i happened to end up in front of an overly-concerned person at a stop light. i saw movement in my mirror, and ended up with entertainment while waiting for the light to change. while we waited at the light i watched this gloved and masked person very carefully fully unwrap a candy bar with his gloved hands, then proceed to transfer between his gloved hands, and then move his mask only enough to allow for small bites, while making sure to put the mask up while chewing.

    later that week, a postal worker called into a radio station i had playing on the jobsite, they were talking about who does what safety stuff to deal with the virus. the postal worker proudly called in and stated "as soon as i get to work, i put on a set of gloves and a mask, and i don't remove them until i can throw them in my trash at home!". the radio station personalities congratulated her for being safe...

    if most people can't understand substance transfer at it's most basic level, my expectations for the same group of people to understand anything beyond a pretty chart that was put together by a company that's financed by corporations that stand to gain the most by not adopting ev's is somewhere between 'low' to 'nil'...
     
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  16. Oct 29, 2023 at 1:47 PM
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    It was a lot more economical to use horses than internal combustion engines for a long time too. It's just a matter of time before EV's in some form replace internal combustion engines. I'm not sure the current versions of EV's will win out. And at 65 I'm not sure I'll live long enough to own one. But change is coming.
     
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    i've always considered hybrids to be a much better stepping stone to ev adoption. they better utilize the current infrastructure with room to grow later. they're not as ideal, but small steps instead of large leaps.
     
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  19. Oct 29, 2023 at 2:52 PM
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    jwctaco

    jwctaco Retired, going slow in the fast lane

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    Remember when cordless drills came out 40 years ago, and now.
     
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