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Rod knocking after pulling trailer up steep hill

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by silverstr8p, Dec 21, 2023.

  1. Dec 22, 2023 at 2:22 AM
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    auskip07

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    Oil pressure has less to do with your compression rings/ oil control rings and more to do with bearing tolerance, specifically main and rod bearing. If we had an active oil pressure gauge we could point to something to gauge engine health from an oil distribution standpoint.

    Regardless, maintained engines do exhibit wear (this is not a controversial statement)
     
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  2. Dec 25, 2023 at 9:42 AM
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    Please let us know how this turns out.
     
  3. Dec 27, 2023 at 2:18 PM
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    Okay, here is the patient, hopefully we'll have it out on the engine stand tomorrow:

     
  4. Dec 27, 2023 at 2:26 PM
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    How fast were you going when you were throwing into 3rd, and at what RPM?
     
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  5. Dec 27, 2023 at 2:26 PM
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    45 mph, probably 3-4K rpm
     
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  6. Dec 27, 2023 at 2:58 PM
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    You can safely downshift to 3rd up to 90 mph
    upload_2023-12-27_14-57-40.png
     
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  7. Dec 27, 2023 at 3:02 PM
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    Love to see a video of you in your truck towing a trailer down a hill doing ~90 and shifting into 3rd :rofl:
     
  8. Dec 27, 2023 at 3:10 PM
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    We are very conservative with this truck, never rodded the engine or truck. It spends a lot of it's life offroad, but that's just because of where it lives and what it does for work. We take it easy to parts don't spray down the highway. I really don't know why the engine did this. Will find out what exactly happened (or the results) in a day or two.
     
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    You're going to do this stuff yourself, yet you don't do your own oil changes????
     
  10. Dec 27, 2023 at 3:10 PM
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    Ops downshifting habits have nothing to do with his issue.
     
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    We have enough vehicles we have sort of a dedicated mechanic (more or less). I try to help less and less, but have pulled hundreds of engines in my life of wrenching. Toyota is on the way in town, so it's really convenient.
     
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    Never said they were after he responded. Was just curious.
     
  13. Dec 27, 2023 at 3:44 PM
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    I had CDL. Just in case
     
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    Okay, got the motor out and looking at crank, but first I'll post the sequence, in case anyone else tries to pull this motor, which takes a long time.

    After you pull the plastic covers off, there's more plastic.
    airintake.jpg

    Plastic intake manifold:

    intakemanifold.jpg

    You have to make a bracket to actually pull the motor later, or buy from Toyota, this is a wire feed welder special, but it worked:

    hangerbracket.jpg
     
  15. Jan 2, 2024 at 10:35 AM
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    Skipping lots of steps, but here's the motor actually coming out. It's sort of wide but not very deep, and has a million wires and hoses. More to come.

    pullingmotor.jpg
     
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    Here's where the exhaust manifold bolts on, never seen one like this before, it's just one hole coming out of the block:

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    This is the manifold after it comes out of the motor, it's really tight in there.

    heat_sheild.jpg

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    You pull off the fender cover to get to this:

    fenderheatsheild.jpg
     
  17. Jan 2, 2024 at 10:46 AM
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    If in fact a rod was knocking the CEL was likely a knock sensor code. The rod big end should be measured for out of round and likely resized by a machine shop. Also the crank rod journal should be measured for diameter and out of roundness. With that kind of mileage a band aid fix is probably not the way to go. Rebuild the entire engine or source another low mileage engine.
     
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  18. Jan 2, 2024 at 11:14 AM
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    Actually the bottom end looks decent, the big issue is the oil looks pretty horrible, even though it was always Mobil 1 changed by Toyota lube place regularly (along with filters). I'll post some pix soon.

    That said, we plan on looking at the main bearings, replacing the oil pump and sending the crank out to be checked.
     
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  19. Jan 2, 2024 at 11:26 AM
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    Ya, it’s been discussed previously on the forum that the 2gr-fks “headers” are integrated into the head and then you have a “down tube”.

    Here is one discussion of the topic. There might be better ones.

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/why-aren’t-headers-a-thing-for-3rd-gens.771756/
     
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  20. Jan 2, 2024 at 12:47 PM
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    so 10k oil change intervals? not too surprised if thats the case.
     

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