Motorcycles BS Thread 2.0

thats small! but again the st is not the same height as the t7 and its the only one id go for tbh...

yuup dual sports are great for a little off and a little on road but a true dirtbike would be awesome! thankfully here i can put a plate on just about anything if it has a headlight and tail light

 

Yeah T7 Seat height is up there at 34.4in - super tenere is similar @ 33.3-34.3 My Wr450 is up at 37.8! I cant flat foot it with booth feet (5ft9) its tippy toes or one foot down one foot on a peg - im sure your KLX400 is up there as well. I dont notice seat height ones moving, just gotta make sure you dont stop in a hole haha (been a few 0mph fall overs on the wr450)

 

drz is 36.8 so an inch shorter then the wr! i have mine lowered an inch so 35 thankfully but unless it has the sm wheels on i still tip toe with both feet but can flat foot one side. the downside is trails and when you get in a hole lol dropped mine a few times like that! im around 5Ft7-8in around that spot. the girl im talking to is 5ft4 so teaching her dirtbikes will be interesting haha

 

Dude, I'm 5'6" and fat. Don't let "short" keep you from trying them out. For long road capable and dirt the ADV market is the place to go, IMO.

The T7 is great if you're 80% in the dirt, but it's barely ok on the road. Definitely not comfortable on the seat, so plan on replacing that. Also, something like a TransAlp or, if you want tamer, the CB500X will handle alot more dirt than most people think. No, it'll never handle it like a dirt bike, but off the beaten trail is certainly well within their wheelhouses. I also think the gap in off road is less wide between the TransAlp and the T7 than the gap in the on road performance. As long as you aren't planning to do technical trials stuff or jump it, the TransAlp will do 95% of what the T7 will, just a little slower. On road, the T7 is going to be much less comfortable than a TA.

If you really dig the T7, they do have lowering links from the factory for it that would drop it down. Unless you have way shorter legs than me, the T7 is still totally doable. I could ride it and have my toes down enough that I still felt in control when I sat on it. I think it looks sick, except they went cheap on the blinkers. Hate the big floppy incandescent ones they did, but I think they revised that on the newest ones.

 

haha yes but i also hate the price! 11k ouch!

my buddy has a t7 and has swapped out the seat on his and has ridden it all the way to tennese on knobbies and said it was great minus ya know wearing the tires down and replacing them lmao but his bike is lowered and even then its fine on road but off-road id feel uncomfortable if i got in a situation where i couldnt put a foot down. so im not to terrible worried about it so ill stick with dirtbikes and putting a trailer behind the truck lol atm i want a fun little bike thats better to commute with thats quick but nothing stupid quick thats why ive been interested in the small cc sportbikes.

 

For commuting and such, Take a look at the CB500s. Any of the 3 are stupid efficient, and as long as you don't want to run 80 MPH for hours at a time, they are plenty powerful/quick. How quick do you want it? For perspective, I had a 2017 Subaru WRX that had an advertised 5.2 0-60 time IIRC, but multiple people and reviewers shaved that to 4.8 just by being more aggressive with the clutch dump. I was never close to those numbers because I wasn't dumping the clutch, but from a stop it was FAST. My little bike is just as fast as I ever was in my WRX. I imagine the CB500F would be a bit quicker being a naked bike, too. CBR500R might be quicker because of the aero advantage of it's faring.

Really wish you were close to me because I'd let you take the CB for a run and see what you thought. It's cheap by today's standards for a new one, but holds value well, so not likely in the same price as a wrecked ninja.

 

ive looked at the cb500 and the cbr500r i really like the cbr on how it feels and looks the cb500f feels kinda awkward to me? it feels like it wants to be upright but also wants me to be hunched over more then it should so unsure how i truly feel about it? ive looked at a few used ones on prices and they normally go for around 5ish it seems. i like both the ninja and the cbr but when looking at new the ninja will when for price even thou both are great bikes! i can see the cb and cbr being more comfortable for a longer ride then the ninja since its a smaller bike in overall size while the Hondas are a more traditional full size bike

 

Do you know what kind of fuel economy the Ninja gets or what it's maintenance intervals are? I never really looked, cuz a fat guy with a gut doesn't want to hunch over the tank on a sport bike. LOL

 

Yeah...nope can't say i've had that.

As others have expressed, if I ever had an SO that tried to put an ultimatum on me like that for something that I am truly passionate, it's over lol. And unfortunately none of my buddies have a burning desire to ride to the point where their SO would have a chance to respond like that, though I am working on one of my friends currently lol.

I can understand concern, and wanting them to be safe, or finding some sort of compromise like no sportbikes, or dirt only or something. But a full stop ultimatum? nope nope nope. Even my ex, who was staunchly against me getting a motorcycle, didn't cause a fuss when I showed up one day with one, and just worried her poor heart out and made sure I always wore gear when riding. Even now, she talks about me taking her for a ride one day despite bashing "that death machine" that is the BMW lol.

There's always gonna be a compromise, but I wouldn't count ADV bikes out. If I can kickstart my absolute bitch of a YZ on uneven terrain with my short ass legs, you can swing yours over an ADV guaranteed. See if you can do a demo day with a dealer or something just to test one out and see, if no local dealers will let you testride a showroom/used model.

I'd also say maybe consider a scrambler style bike and throw some knobbies on, but that may be too heavy for your liking as well. A true dirtbike will still be pretty tall, and not that great for any street riding over like 30-40mph. And you'll eat tires unless you supermoto it

 

And that's the truth. Bikes run the full spectrum of only road to only dirt and a whole lot of in between, and we all just have to find what we like best.

 

Didn't manage to snap any decent pics of the bike while out this weekend, but got in a good amount of riding both days...though I did manage to snag a speeding ticket . Here's some pics while doing some maintenance/cleaning, and some pics from CnC

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got into my front sprocket to clean it...this was about halfway through. had a solid layer of chain sludge all over

 

How fast were you going?


You're really reassuring me that I want a shaft drive bike. Damn those are nice looking cars.

 

Obviously the speed limit, maybe 5 over!

Realistically though, Me and my buddy had just hit a freeway bypass with absolutely no traffic early on it in the morning so we'd opened it up. got to about 115, cop must have gotten on the bypass from a different merge just behind us as he immediately lit up my buddy who was maybe a quarter mile. I saw and we immediately both pulled over, didn't want to leave my buddy behind to take the fall. He ended up writing us up for 80 thankfully. promptly got back onto the freeway at 85-90mph going with the flow of traffic on the main freeway lol.

Shaft drive definitely isn't bad, but tbh this was a ton of accumulation from who knows how long. First time I've personally cleaned the front sprocket...yes I know I need to be better lol.

 

umm i know it gets like 20mpg less then the cb and cbr since it revs higher. unsure about maintenance intervals its been awhile since i looked it up

i agree if it was a full on no for me id walk but thankfully as i stated the girl im talking with doesnt care just doesnt want anything super fast.

i can ride two different adventure bikes tomorrow if i wanted to. my buddy has a modded t7 and a modded ktm 890 (the none dirt spec model) he wants me to ride both and see which one i like (he wants more adv bike buddies lol) ive never had an issue kick starting bikes tbh lol. i like scramblers a lot but not many truly exist and at the end of the day they are a naked with some knobbies which look cool but eh? correct i prefer light bikes so anything heavy i dont really like for low speed maneuvering. i also know about running knobbies on the street lol i use to run them before i got the sm setup but a true dirtbike wouldnt be used for street it would be the bike that tbh sits around more then anything until i go on a trial somewhere

 

Yeah, I don't want to be better. I'll stay a lazy POS. LOL

 

Lol. I find it kinda therapeutic when I finally get around to doing it. I just have to section off a chunk of a weekend to do so since I really take my time.

 

Oh, not for comparison. Sorry, I'm not really trying to sell you a Honda. Just curious about the Ninja as I know nothing but the name. The only reason I offer up the info on the 500s is so you can make the most informed decision. Whatever you get, make sure you love it!

Yeah, if your girl doesn't want you on "fast" stuff then the KTM might get you in trouble. Good way to find out if you need to cut her loose, though.

 

I might be more inclined to do it if I had a garage, but then again I might just be lazy then too.

 

Yeah I mostly mentioned the kickstarting because my YZ seat height is high af, and I still have to be able to get my leg over enough to kick it over, so height for a non-kickstarted bike should be little to no issue lol.

Yeah give those ADVs a shot and just see how you like it. You'll know p quick if its something you could ride or it's a hard pass.

or just to what Cboys did and slap some 80/20's on an R6