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6-inch lift issues. PLEASE HELP!

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Tacoma 00731, Feb 28, 2024.

  1. Feb 28, 2024 at 6:45 PM
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    Tacoma 00731

    Tacoma 00731 [OP] Member

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    Ponce, Puerto Rico.
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    Bilstein 5100's with top lift (2.5) Stock coil springs Total Chaos UCA Predator Step Bars 6" BDS Lift Kit (Spacers) Blocks on the rear 20 x 12 Arkon Lincoln Proper Directional wheels with -44 offset 35 Tires Custom retrofit headlights (Morimoto projector with turbine shorud, double angel eyes, demon eyes and black housing)
    Right now, I have the following set up:

    Bilstein 5100's with top lift (2.5)
    Stock coil springs
    Total Chaos UCA
    6" BDS Lift Kit (Spacers) 6 Inch Lift Kit | Toyota Tacoma (05-15) 4WD – BDS Suspension (bds-suspension.com)
    20 x 12 Arkon Lincoln Proper Directional wheels with -44 offset ARKON OFF-ROAD Lincoln 20x12 -51 | K10120208345 | 2014 Toyota Tacoma (arkonoffroad.com)
    35 Tires

    The truck feels STIFF on the front suspension. Very RIGID. I'm starting to have problems with outer tie rods ends, sway bar links and other suspension components.
    I want to know your wise opinion so that I can put things right for once.
    What set up should I use in the 5100's with de OEM coil springs?
    Further on I will upgrade to Fox Coilovers or a more economic ones like Rough Country. (Link below)

    Fox Shock Kit: 05-23 Toyota Tacoma 4wd & 2wd Prerunner, Front Coilover, 2.5 Series, Remote Reservoir, 5.80″, 4-6″ Lift, DSC – AccuTune Off-Road (accutuneoffroad.com)

    Vertex 2.5 Adjustable Coilovers | Front | 6" | Toyota Tacoma 2WD/4WD (05-23) | Rough Country

    Please Help me with your knowledge.
     
  2. Feb 28, 2024 at 7:09 PM
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    ZColorado

    ZColorado Well-Known Member

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    You are not going to get much love for a drop bracket lift, but Puerto Rico is pretty far off the path that most of us are familiar with.

    I would try and lower the level on the front coilovers. You probably have too much pre-load on the springs. You may need to get longer, lower spring rate coils if lowering the bucket setting does not work.
     
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  3. Feb 29, 2024 at 6:36 AM
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    TVH475

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    I'm not familair with your set up but, are you using factory coils on the Bilstiens? If so what clip position are you running on the shock body? You could try disconnecting your sway bar, that'll help, I don't run one at all & drive my truck on the hwy daily. As for your steering components your wheel/tire package is just going to be hard on parts.
     
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  4. Feb 29, 2024 at 8:20 AM
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    Tacoma 00731

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    Bilstein 5100's with top lift (2.5) Stock coil springs Total Chaos UCA Predator Step Bars 6" BDS Lift Kit (Spacers) Blocks on the rear 20 x 12 Arkon Lincoln Proper Directional wheels with -44 offset 35 Tires Custom retrofit headlights (Morimoto projector with turbine shorud, double angel eyes, demon eyes and black housing)
    Im running the 5100's with the top lift. Yes I have the factory coil on this shoks. Maybe I have too much pre-load on the springs. I would try to lower it to 0 to see if it rides better. What spring coils do you guys recommend me for this set up?
    What pros and cons does it have removing the sway bar?
    Thank you for all your responses.
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  5. Feb 29, 2024 at 6:11 PM
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    4x4junkie

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    I agree, it sounds like you have the suspension jacked up too high.
    The BDS drop brackets drop down 4", if you keep your total lift height to around 4½-5½", will be much less stressful on frontend components, and will ride a lot smoother.
    Also agreed, those tires sticking way out like that doesn't help either (it puts much more leverage on ball joints, steering tie rods & rack, wheel bearings).


    Pros:
    Smoother ride (particularly when hitting bumps under one front wheel- there's less side-to-side pitching), more suspension articulation while off road.

    Cons:
    More body lean during turns, less stable if you have to swerve suddenly (say, to avoid a dog that darts out into the street in front of you). You'll need to drive accordingly. (Fox shocks will help a lot in compensating for not having the sway bar... Not sure about Rough Country's Vertex, but I would still expect to see some improvement over what you're running now)
     
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  6. Mar 1, 2024 at 7:13 AM
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    gotoman1969

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    If you put the coil at setting zero you more than likely are not gonna clear that tire and wheel set up as you’re gonna lose 2.5” of lift.
     

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