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Stealership Oil Change...

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Bmw2Taco, Mar 25, 2024.

  1. Mar 27, 2024 at 2:37 PM
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    I never worked aircraft, but I did work as a dealership wrench.
    "Flat Rate" was the single biggest contributor to crappy workmanship.

    I wonder if Flat Rate is the same reason why Boeing is having parts fall off their planes.
     
  2. Mar 27, 2024 at 2:55 PM
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    I think you’re definitely on something about the four service in flat rate for oil changes.


    oh, I could talk about the Boeing issues for tens of thousands of words.
     
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  3. Mar 27, 2024 at 6:24 PM
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    I’m just having fun with a description to help a first timer! I’ve seen oil not rush out so quick if you don’t take off the oil cap before removing the drain plug. Not so with my Tacoma.
     
  4. Mar 27, 2024 at 6:31 PM
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    Facts….my Camry and 4Runner drain “Normally” the Tacoma drains in fast forward.
     
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  5. Mar 27, 2024 at 6:50 PM
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    2020 the fittings went away
    There are fittings on the front drive shaft
     
  6. Mar 27, 2024 at 7:03 PM
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    Boeing seems to have been putting profits ahead of safety and engineering lately.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/30/busi...lowing,ripped away from terrified passengers.
     
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  7. Mar 28, 2024 at 3:14 AM
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    Way more to that than just profits. It’s a quality issue. I know that sounds cheesy, but it’s real. From the mechanics to the inspectors to the administrators. No one want to take the hard line and say we suck.
     
  8. Apr 8, 2024 at 3:05 PM
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    Okay...so I attempted to change the oil filter today and I could not loosen the filter cap! I put a breaker bar on it and still could not loosen it at all. I also put a 35mm socket on the removal tool and it would not budge!! I stopped before making a huge mistake and reinstalled the drain plug and topped off the oil. Apparently the dealer had a gorilla reinstall the cap! I actually broke off a plastic tab on the filter cap. Any recommendations? I really don't want to take it to dealer. I'm going to buy the metal cap, but first I need to get this one off!

    PXL_20240408_214100987.jpg 17126137519495472669484851194159.jpg
     
  9. Apr 8, 2024 at 3:43 PM
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    First thing is you're using the wrong filter wrench. Those that have slots for the tabs are the old design and will almost surely break the tabs. You need the Motivx tool like this one.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XTAGHU0

    That, along with a six point 24mm socket and a LONG breaker bar should get the job done.
     
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  10. Apr 8, 2024 at 3:48 PM
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    Okay I cheaped out on the tool so I'll order the MotivX one and the metal replacement cap. I took it around the block, no leaks so no damage done. This proves the fact that the dealership is full of morons! Lord knows the last time filter was changed. I'll report back...
     
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  11. Apr 8, 2024 at 3:52 PM
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    I also went to Harbor Freight and bought a 1/2" drive deep impact socket, and long 1/2" drive breaker bar. Works great with that MotivX tool. I never switched to the metal filter housing, even though I do have one.
     
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  12. Apr 8, 2024 at 4:20 PM
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    Wow... this really does shake ones' confidence in them performing the most basic tasks.
     
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  13. Apr 8, 2024 at 5:24 PM
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    No, not really. Just don’t be an idiot putting it together. Torque properly and use QUALITY tools
     
  14. Apr 8, 2024 at 5:29 PM
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    Those dealership clowns ugga dugga’d my oil filter on with an impact gun. I know because i couldnt get it off by hand (seized/needed impact to break it free) and had to use my milwaukee to get it off
     
  15. Apr 8, 2024 at 6:11 PM
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    Exactly my point after seeing wide spread complaints about dealership techs FUBARing basic tasks such as over tightening the oil filter housing.

    One thing I noticed that contributes to poor quality repairs is Flat Rate.
    I have a feeling this is what is going on with Boeing as well, with parts falling off their planes.
    When a tech can get paid for a 5 hour job, but do it in 4 hours, then move on to the next Flat Rate job... corners get cut in the name of speed.
     
  16. Apr 8, 2024 at 6:12 PM
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    Just did my own OC and apparently I forgot to install the filter drain plug small o-ring last time. No leaks tho... and the filter came off easy. My changes are an even bigger PIA since I have a Pelfreybilt Aluminum skid plate from my 2nd Gen and I have to drop it each time... Same crush washer too...
     
  17. Apr 8, 2024 at 6:20 PM
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    What's flat rate has to do with basic mechanical skill and proper tools?
     
  18. Apr 8, 2024 at 7:29 PM
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    the problem is human nature.
     
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    Speaking of which , the OPs struggle was predicted in post 76.
     
  20. Apr 8, 2024 at 7:55 PM
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    Damn, that's a half-turn more than where it should be if they torqued it correctly. The three notches should be to the right of the metal retainer clip. Maybe a 30 min drive to warm things up before trying to chisel it off.
     
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