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GarlicFarts · Apr 23, 2024

Merling said: ↑

I want to be able to turn them on/off without going into the cab. I wanna build a sleeper out of the cap
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GarlicFarts said: ↑

I only read 10% of that and ignored that you were in the bed/cap.

I still stand by the USB string lights and switch.

But maybe this instead:

$47 Hiluckey Solar Charger 25000mAh, Outdoor USB C Portable Power Bank with 4 Solar Panels, 3A Fast Charge External Battery Pack with 3 USB Outputs Compatible with Smartphones, Tablets, etc.

https://www.amazon.com/25000mAh-Hiluckey-Compatible-Smartphones-Waterproof/dp/B07FMFGGNR?crid=Q9NW05H1JPA0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.PtXEktoR_WpgyWVDveOVX52XePO7MPLUykMfVuC86icCQioKEPb0IjqsVFhxx0MQH2Af0WpfRY91iARag2of7TYgS76RRh8-X7jNLz-fc5DnasHpAIELsd2daUPJZAcPW1bgeoZoXh314ZCjCNV0kE1Y6IP4UCmEmCqhlgiLKMdp1JoM8Jkc1juLLN_jZ1KymGVESEaw22GENdMk3WJvB2SbwweIFI8umuVmXtmtmYo.odQpJh8__4N038xG6MlnNCUtDzA1c1n83v3G16lgX98&dib_tag=se&keywords=solar+battery+bank&qid=1713882065&sprefix=solar+battery+bank%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-4&th=1

Full disclosure - I've seen some of these that are great, but I haven't a clue about that one specifically. But 6W is plenty to top up, and you could use it to charge your phone(s) overnight back there. Mount it in a window.

This is without going all in and doing a 20W on the roof, MPPT controller, and a lithium battery back there. And some 12V RV lights.

$24 12v LED Interior Light Bar，CT CAPETRONIX 120LEDs 1500LM 8W DC 12 Volt led Strip Lights with ON/Off Switch，for Enclosed Cargo Trailer, Car RV Van Truck Lorry Camper Boat Caravan Motorhome (4Pack)

https://www.amazon.com/Interior-CAPETRONIX-120LEDs-Enclosed-Motorhome/dp/B094R1VNQX?crid=26LFVV0KNRNMW&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.fEx07Z6OxY4z0DhKpQux6QeFCJXlPHCOfALn11VEZx_aKkmeTBbjQo-7dWzjbrgMSdFU5BcfoMDTolD8rcilPkBKadEmhyCGGkubCOYN9h4OQPwNtvm-eV8_POb_woguNLOwLNHbBCiSBG9If5SyssQiNS3mnVEQYHSnp5aW620YCvyRZdR-G6w8dfMAtjz34bQjCB3mNjMb_gKFD8Kmjnbsslqu9yA6e52pI5XQXZaigtnaPSlQdtTMA8Gtktf16F1Ru0C7DvC-zWCtnldbeEOBg-tGRhQ7BnMCqxKwQFM.aolLJc_3-GkYWBbYN8IKENAg11bohpcc0YOSb9gc6eY&dib_tag=se&keywords=12V+lights&qid=1713882293&sprefix=12v+string+lights%2Caps%2C90&sr=8-5

All depends how much you use it and how much you want to go in on this shenanigans. If it's a 2-4 nights a year thing, F it, just a regular battery pack and a USB switch would be good. Every weekend? Maybe a dedicated panel and battery makes sense
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Chasespeed said: ↑

Ah.
Well, in that case, easy. As you mentioned, use your M12s. Set the lights on a cig light plug, or a m12 plug. And keep a couple batteries handy.

And there used to be a Milwaukee one with a cigarette lighter, and a USB, if you can find it.

But, the below is cheap, and simple. Don't even need a switch.

$13 Power Wheels Battery Adapter Compatible for Milwaukee 12V Dock Power Connector 12 Gauge Robotic

https://www.amazon.com/Battery-adap...79rY0hKOlRmwLqUN2aeFBnanrJ8RFsuxoCsJIQAvD_BwE
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Third (fourth? seventh?) idea

You have a bed outlet.

$90 MARBERO Portable Power Station 88Wh Camping Lithium Battery Solar Generator Fast Charging with AC Outlet 120W Peak Power Bank(Solar Panel Optional) for Home Backup Outdoor Emergency RV Van Hunting

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Yes, DC to AC to DC is not efficient, but this just plugs in, charges when you're driving as is, and then you're good to go.

This is how a lot of people charge jackery banks, using the bed outlet. It works. It's not the most efficient way, but it takes zero mods, zero effort, and you're done. And, it's in the cap so you don't get into your sleeping bag and then think "Oh balls, I forgot I was charging it in the cab today"

TacoTuesday603 · Apr 23, 2024

GarlicFarts said: ↑

I only read 10% of that and ignored that you were in the bed/cap.

I still stand by the USB string lights and switch.

All depends how much you use it and how much you want to go in on this shenanigans. If it's a 2-4 nights a year thing, F it, just a regular battery pack and a USB switch would be good. Every weekend? Maybe a dedicated panel and battery makes sense
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Tiff and I have those fairy light things in our tent running off of 3 AAA batteries and its been that way for 3 years on the same batteries. Works too good to even try anything else.

Merling · Apr 23, 2024

TacoTuesday603 said: ↑

Tiff and I have those fairy light things in our tent running off of 3 AAA batteries and its been that way for 3 years on the same batteries. Works too good to even try anything else.

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yeah if the cap didn’t already come with lighting I’d go that way.

honestly thinking of getting one of the ones with a remote so I can change the color to match the red of my interior lighting in the cab

GarlicFarts · Apr 23, 2024

Merling said: ↑

already come with lighting
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I'm really bad at reading.

Merling said: ↑

honestly thinking of getting one of the ones with a remote so I can change the color to match the red of my interior lighting in the cab
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Red lights FTW

Also red doesn't attract skeeters

https://www.dodsonbros.com/led-lights-flying-insects/

TacoTuesday603 said: ↑

Tiff and I have those fairy light things in our tent running off of 3 AAA batteries and its been that way for 3 years on the same batteries. Works too good to even try anything else.

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Nice, good to know! I might grab a set then for the tent.

memario1214 · Apr 23, 2024

TacoTuesday603 said: ↑

He also has more then listed on the website. I have been bothering him about either 14" 7100s or fox 2.0s. Just PM him, great to work with
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crashngiggles said: ↑

Correct sir. The 6112 when used with the Bilstein spring, keeps the lifetime warranty with the 6112 through Bilstein. If a Eibach Spring is used instead it voids the warranty. I did a lot of research on this before I bought mine. A lot of people would say that they don't really care anyway but when you are looking at the longevity of ownership, I believe that it makes a huge difference. Hotshot offroad is really awesome though. I fully recommend @memario1214 as a vendor. Headstrong used to be the "go to" place but after the changed ownership a number of years ago, things slowly changed and not for the better customer service wise. I have not heard any good or bad things about Shock surplus. They may be the best place to go for your needs. I just have any experience with them. I think this is the same kit with Hotshot (without the rear spring of course):
https://hotshotoffroad.com/collecti...kits/products/6112-5160-lift-kit-2014-4runner

PM @memario1214 and he can answer a lot of questions for you and get you what you need and recommend a ride height depending on your needs.
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I appreciate the nod. We certainly do our best over here!

InCogNeatOh Parts said: ↑

thanks, I believe you are correct.

Think this is what I’d need

https://www.shocksurplus.com/produc...kit-for-2010-2021-toyota-4runner-4wd-w-1-lift

I look around hotshot some more, but don’t think they carry the Bilstein rear spring. I remember Jarod saying something about being good. However, I have read about others using the Eibach with the Bilstein and seems common.
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As you've stumbled upon already we don't have everything up and live on the site. We're a small (but quite dedicated) team. Website buildout has been our focus as of this month, but there's quite a mountain to climb for just a couple of goons with a keyboard! If you know what you're after and can link me to a comparable listing I can give you insights as well as pricing. If you really don't know what you want I can certainly help out there as well. I pretty much live and breathe this stuff so I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.

InCogNeatOh Parts · Apr 23, 2024

memario1214 said: ↑

I appreciate the nod. We certainly do our best over here!

As you've stumbled upon already we don't have everything up and live on the site. We're a small (but quite dedicated) team. Website buildout has been our focus as of this month, but there's quite a mountain to climb for just a couple of goons with a keyboard! If you know what you're after and can link me to a comparable listing I can give you insights as well as pricing. If you really don't know what you want I can certainly help out there as well. I pretty much live and breathe this stuff so I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.
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Thanks. Consider me clueless and a slow study.

I do like the Bilstein setup, I feel it’s more than I need with out going overboard.
Currently, my 22 ORP runner, has bolt on sliders, roof rack and rtt. I plan to add skids, maybe front bumper with winch and even more of a maybe, rear bumper. I’m not looking to lift much, mainly improve road manners, handle the added weight better and gain some clearance with out adding other issues and problems.

memario1214 · Apr 23, 2024

InCogNeatOh Parts said: ↑

Thanks. Consider me clueless and a slow study.

I do like the Bilstein setup, I feel it’s more than I need with out going overboard.
Currently, my 22 ORP runner, has bolt on sliders, roof rack and rtt. I plan to add skids, maybe front bumper with winch and even more of a maybe, rear bumper. I’m not looking to lift much, mainly improve road manners, handle the added weight better and gain some clearance with out adding other issues and problems.
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Are you KDSS equipped?

InCogNeatOh Parts · Apr 23, 2024

memario1214 said: ↑

Are you KDSS equipped?
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No

memario1214 · Apr 23, 2024

InCogNeatOh Parts said: ↑

Thanks. Consider me clueless and a slow study.

I do like the Bilstein setup, I feel it’s more than I need with out going overboard.
Currently, my 22 ORP runner, has bolt on sliders, roof rack and rtt. I plan to add skids, maybe front bumper with winch and even more of a maybe, rear bumper. I’m not looking to lift much, mainly improve road manners, handle the added weight better and gain some clearance with out adding other issues and problems.
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To put it simply there's a couple way to do this - None of them are perfect pnp, but they'll all accomplish the job, and I've gotten pretty good at guessing how something will react! I also don't know your exact weights (which RTT specifically for example) so I'm somewhat shooting from the hip. 6112/5160 is a solid setup. Very common for the overland type of build, and in most all cases the best bang for the buck IMO.

Based on your desire to be at roughly stock height we could go with a standard load spring to the tune of about 1.5" of rear lift on a stock truck, and assume that the weight that you have on the truck will deflect that spring enough to get you to nearly stock height. Since the 6112s will give you at least .7" up front, we're going to want to grab at least a LITTLE lift in the rear when it's all said and done.

Go with a heavy weight spring intended for your amount of load, but go into it knowing that you're definitely going to be getting some lift out of it since you're not knocking on the door of what we would consider a heavy weight setup.

I'd probably personally take #1. What I would do is have you take hub-to-fender measurements in the rear to find out how much your setup is deflecting your OEM springs now, and budget that same amount of loss in when we select new springs to find out a settled height.

Also, I saw you mentioning other components. Since you're not asking for a bunch of lift here (if any) I am not recommending new trailing arms, panhard rods, etc. We can entertain a new panhard rod down the line if your axle ends up off-center, but I have no reason to believe that it should with your proposed setup.

InCogNeatOh Parts · Apr 23, 2024

Ilam

memario1214 said: ↑

To put it simply there's a couple way to do this - None of them are perfect pnp, but they'll all accomplish the job, and I've gotten pretty good at guessing how something will react! I also don't know your exact weights (which RTT specifically for example) so I'm somewhat shooting from the hip. 6112/5160 is a solid setup. Very common for the overland type of build, and in most all cases the best bang for the buck IMO.

Based on your desire to be at roughly stock height we could go with a standard load spring to the tune of about 1.5" of rear lift on a stock truck, and assume that the weight that you have on the truck will deflect that spring enough to get you to nearly stock height. Since the 6112s will give you at least .7" up front, we're going to want to grab at least a LITTLE lift in the rear when it's all said and done.

Go with a heavy weight spring intended for your amount of load, but go into it knowing that you're definitely going to be getting some lift out of it since you're not knocking on the door of what we would consider a heavy weight setup.

I'd probably personally take #1. What I would do is have you take hub-to-fender measurements in the rear to find out how much your setup is deflecting your OEM springs now, and budget that same amount of loss in when we select new springs to find out a settled height.

Also, I saw you mentioning other components. Since you're not asking for a bunch of lift here (if any) I am not recommending new trailing arms, panhard rods, etc. We can entertain a new panhard rod down the line if your axle ends up off-center, but I have no reason to believe that it should with your proposed setup.
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iKamper X-cover, 150 lbs. plus Sherpa Crestone, 50 lbs. then cooler and other gear. Nor am I a small human.
How bad will the ride be if we went with the heavier spring out of the gate?

memario1214 · Apr 23, 2024

InCogNeatOh Parts said: ↑

Ilam

iKamper X-cover, 150 lbs. plus Sherpa Crestone, 50 lbs. then cooler and other gear. Nor am I a small human.
How bad will the ride be if we went with the heavier spring out of the gate?
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So you've probably got about 250lbs being applied to the rear axle as far as weight is concerned when unloaded, and all of 350 when you load up. If you go with the heavier spring out of the gate you just run the risk of riding "atop" the spring. It will more or less feel as though there's no spring back there at all is the best way I can explain it. Just very firm. You probably have enough to engage that spring now so I wouldn't be too concerned. My only caveat I was trying to work around was trying to limit your lift. What we always could do is order everything but get you springs and rear shocks first. Then we would just build the 6112s to suit your desired ride height after we figure out where the new rear setup will settle into

InCogNeatOh Parts · Apr 23, 2024

memario1214 said: ↑

So you've probably got about 250lbs being applied to the rear axle as far as weight is concerned when unloaded, and all of 350 when you load up. If you go with the heavier spring out of the gate you just run the risk of riding "atop" the spring. It will more or less feel as though there's no spring back there at all is the best way I can explain it. Just very firm. You probably have enough to engage that spring now so I wouldn't be too concerned. My only caveat I was trying to work around was trying to limit your lift. What we always could do is order everything but get you springs and rear shocks first. Then we would just build the 6112s to suit your desired ride height after we figure out where the new rear setup will settle into
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Makes sense. I’ll let this swim around my head for a while.

GarlicFarts · Apr 23, 2024

InCogNeatOh Parts said: ↑

Makes sense. I’ll let this swim around my head for a while.
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I'll throw out there - sliders are 100% added weight, skids are 99% since the stocks are so flimsy. But with bumpers - usually you end up stripping off a lot of weight, then adding only a bit more. My front bumper is probably only an "added" 20ish lbs, and rear I think is going to be similar. I am dropping the receiver and bumper, to add the bumper, etc etc. Front dropped some frame/crash bars in there, and added the plate bumper.

Ignoring the winch, to be fair.

TacoTuesday603 · Apr 23, 2024

GarlicFarts said: ↑

I'll throw out there - sliders are 100% added weight, skids are 99% since the stocks are so flimsy. But with bumpers - usually you end up stripping off a lot of weight, then adding only a bit more. My front bumper is probably only an "added" 20ish lbs, and rear I think is going to be similar. I am dropping the receiver and bumper, to add the bumper, etc etc. Front dropped some frame/crash bars in there, and added the plate bumper.

Ignoring the winch, to be fair.
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Fronts will add a decent amount of weight, only taking off plastic and aluminum crash bar.

Rob your rear bumper will add a grand total of 9 lbs.

GarlicFarts · Apr 23, 2024

TacoTuesday603 said: ↑

Fronts will add a decent amount of weight, only taking off plastic and aluminum crash bar.

Rob your rear bumper will add a grand total of 9 lbs.
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that's what I mean!

I also don't have the support plates for winching, which would add a couple pounds. But I think (at least for mine) we took off a good chunk of metal. At least enough that the "raw" weight of the bumper was pretty decently offset with that.

And like you've now given numbers to, +9lb net for that rear

Just some food for thought for Mr. Bill when he's trying to crunch numbers on what he's adding, that he's taking off a bunch of stuff too (potentially).

Clark27 · Apr 23, 2024

@Roody

Found this online today. I figured it would be a swap but didn’t know a company was actually doing the legwork.

https://garagealphaoffroad.com/prod...MfbmBbBKul1AWz72Ryao_9JI9sh7pVghoCGMIQAvD_BwE

DJF07Dirty87 · Apr 23, 2024

Thanks to Brownmatthall I was introduced to this group from the New York page. I'm not new to the forum just this group. I have a 2021 Toyota Tacoma off road cement. just kinda introducing myself mostly stock just skids and some lights nothing crazy, but i am def up for easier trails or meet ups.

AllTacosFloat · Apr 23, 2024

DJF07Dirty87 said: ↑

Thanks to Brownmatthall I was introduced to this group from the New York page. I'm not new to the forum just this group. I have a 2021 Toyota Tacoma off road cement. just kinda introducing myself mostly stock just skids and some lights nothing crazy, but i am def up for easier trails or meet ups.
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Welcome aboard

Brownmatthall · Apr 23, 2024

DJF07Dirty87 said: ↑

Thanks to Brownmatthall I was introduced to this group from the New York page. I'm not new to the forum just this group. I have a 2021 Toyota Tacoma off road cement. just kinda introducing myself mostly stock just skids and some lights nothing crazy, but i am def up for easier trails or meet ups.
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Welcome to the party

InCogNeatOh Parts · Apr 24, 2024

I forgot about my skids. Thanks @GarlicFarts

4x4 innovation bolt on
I’ll say 50 lbs each, as I couldn’t quickly find that info.

I really think the heavy spring might be the smarter choice and just accept the lift height it ends up at.

I thought I sent this yesterday.

But after reading/researching more last night, I am more in the air at the moment.

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