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Can everyone help me compile JBL system upgrade advice here?

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by RxYoda, May 23, 2024.

  1. May 23, 2024 at 10:59 AM
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    RxYoda

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    There are tons of Non-JBL guidance here. Can we assemble guidance for those with JBL? ( I have spent DAYS looking)

    Thanks!!
     
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  2. May 23, 2024 at 11:27 AM
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    destin_meeks I used to fix people's crappy stereos

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    Lots of threads here about the JBL system
     
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  3. May 23, 2024 at 12:55 PM
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    Yes, there are. And after sorting through them for days, it seemed as though there has to be a better way.
     
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    Im considering swapping my 06 sienna JBL but am concerned about getting stuck with a $2k downgrade. Even the DSP on my DNN 992 and DNX Kenwoods weren't close to the 8/1 JBL Sienna. High end Kenwood tumers themself are now garbage
     
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    Typically, upgrading the JBL system includes gutting all speakers and the amp. Two or three grand will build you a pretty darn good system
     
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    I have replaced the speakers, and have a kicker key 2004 sitting in the shop. Also have the pac wiring harness for a 10 and 12 lead breakout. Will I need bother the 10 and 12? They seem to be duplicates.

    Looking for, but can’t find:
    -Wiring guide
    -Recommended amps
    -Recommended processors
    -Anywhere near help available for non-JBL


    Not looking for drama, just help (after considerable searching)
     
  8. May 23, 2024 at 3:40 PM
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    Do you have a budget to stick to?

    you’ll need both sides of the PAC harness. It should have come with a guide/chart, but it’s also listed on their website

    For amps, are you wanting to use the Key you have, or go bigger?

    you’ll also need either the DSR1 or an AmpPro to interface with the factory head unit.
    The DSR1 is also a dsp, but it’s not the easiest from what I’ve been told.
     
  9. May 23, 2024 at 5:53 PM
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    what do you mean by a 'better way'?

    my preference is to gut the entire system and start fresh, meaning that all of the things you ask for later on, like the wiring guide, are entirely unnecessary outside of radio power/ground/ignition that are well documented, and easily attainable via aftermarket adapter harnesses. at that point, the installation becomes the same as any non-jbl equipped vehicle.

    keeping any part of the jbl system inherently adds drama, as adapters are required(if the radio is like a steering wheel, and the amp is the tires, removing the parts in between can be a major ordeal!). how far one goes at that point is very much a matter of personal preference, budget, and overall expectations.
     
  10. May 24, 2024 at 7:01 AM
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    A better way: not searching for a week or more through years of posts overwhelmingly focused on non-JBL installs to eventually find a few posts that give vague information. (Not a better way to approach an upgrade compared to previous advice, but a better way to find it, by assembling that information in a single thread)

    As stated in the OP, I HOPED to assemble a single reference for what is possible, advisable, efficient, amazing, cost-effective, when trying to improve a pathetic ‘premium’ factory sound system.

    Personally, I do not want to replace the factory head unit. Unless I plan on a $3000-10,000+ sound system. Other people might, and that advice is welcome. I would expect an integrated HU worthy of replacing the integrated factory HU to cost $1000-$2000. I would also think that… personally, a gutted/replaced system, done right, to my expectations would cost over $4000. What could be done for <$1000? Under $1500? That way I can still do rims+tires+lift+tune+supercharger+etc. Also, if/when I trade/upgrade/sell the truck, I would need to convert it all back to stock.

    For the record, I have considerable experience with cars, and car audio. I came here looking for expertise regarding Tacomas and Toyotas in general.

    Maybe instead of asking for help, I’ll spend the next month or two searching and copying links from previous posts then create a thread with those links in it.
     
  11. May 24, 2024 at 7:10 AM
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    Budget…haven’t decided, more goal oriented. So far $400ish on speakers and sound deadening. Maybe <$1000-$1500 total unless it still sounds weak, and CarPlay won’t exceed 65dB.

    I just bought the key…first step.
    The PAC guide has both wiring layouts on it. The seem to be the exact same thing with fewer wires.
    If I use the PAC for line level inputs to the amp (key or not) or LOC what will I use the DSR1/AmpPro for?

    …or just use the AmpPro for line level inputs to an amp, with new wiring to all drivers/speakers/passive crossovers, and leave factory amp hooked up with terminated outputs?
     
  12. May 24, 2024 at 7:26 PM
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    I think iData can integrate with the JBL system now by replacing the amplifier. Options on the replacement are limited it looks like though.

    Someone should go for it and write that up.
     
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    It’s the Maestro AR. I don’t have a JBL so I didn’t dig too much but a casual look gave me the impression you can remove the JBL amp and use a Maestro AR with a vehicle specific harness and install one of a few aftermarket amplifier options in its place.

    I don’t know what features you lose or retain, I’d assume you don’t lose anything since you aren’t replacing the factory radio.
     
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    The op's actual questions werent clear until post 10 & 11. I think they ask for advise on a budget friendly way for better and more powerful sound while staying with factory h/u. ???

    I'm not familiar with the factory unit in my 08 Tacoma as it was already gone... but speaking for my factory amped 06 Sienna JBL (8/1) I love it, it is awsome. Aside from being a slow, out of date maps and glitchy the features and sound will make your head spin.

    Sorry I'm not much help here. Gòod luck
     
  16. May 26, 2024 at 7:46 AM
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