Honest community pros / cons for science...

Pro: I can easily drive in a tight circle because of the wheel base and the great range in the steering lock to lock.

Con: It takes a lot of effort to turn the drive wheels.

Pro Science-Pro War. War is two opposing entities testing their science against each other.

 

you have the low rpm stutter too? Biggest complaint of mine.. I’m learning to accept it but it stinks doesn’t it

 

Pro: great off-road capabilities and support
Con: transmission even after OTT (the transmission itself isn't the issue, its the tuning of it. If gear selection was based on torque demand and not on fuel efficiency it would be just fine)

 

Persinally I think all you folks with the shudder have defective torque converters

 

my 22 corolla also did that exit a corner stutter thing. weirdest thing.

 

maybe. Idk it’s only on low rpm then once it shifts I’m good to go. Anyway I didn’t mean to hijack thread back to topic

 

At the price these vehicles cost I would not accept any shudder tbh

 

My mother and father bought a 4 bedroom house in Oregon for $12,000 in 1950 (the house I grew up in). When my father bought a 1995 Camry (45 years later) he always complained he paid more for the Camry than his house.

 

couldn’t agree with you more

 

Pros - versatility, size, reliability, off-road capability and MT option.

cons - rear seating room and winter MPGs

 

Pro: 6mt, always starts, offroad capable

Con: seat placement to stickshift (I'm 6 ft and feel i have to compromise either legs or arm comfort) and seat confort level.

 

I did the OME 2” medium lift but went with medium dobinson leafs just for that reason.

 

Con: the rearview mirror seems to not be shaped for this particular vehicle. As if it was designed for some other smaller vehicle

 

I’m no rich by any means but I’m not dumb with my money. I’ve been a hard working dude since 11 y.o.

Bough a 5BR 3 Bath 1974 home 7 months ago

At the same time I actually quit my job (thank fuck, fuck working at these big companies) and started my own thing. So definitely making less money at the moment but things are getting better and better.

 

So even if you drive in S3 or S4 in the city, it still does that?

 

Pro: It does everything I want it to do and does them well.
Con: None.

 

noo not then once I get going it shifts great it only happens when I come to a stop or around a corner

 

I am not going to argue about what or why, but paying $557,900 living that far is a crime... Our house costed this much 20 minutes away from Toronto just 10 years ago, and now it's 1.5 million, my income didn't quadruple tho...

 

Pro: I like how the dash layout is simple, timeless, and not overdone with tech

Con: Pretty tight up front with car seats, especially rear facing

 

PRO: Its a truck I can haul my stuff any time I need to.
CON: Its a truck I get asked to haul friends' stuff all the time.