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Rear Quarter Paint Chipping Issue - TH/Pro? 6 foot box? Other trims?

Discussion in '4th Gen. Tacomas (2024+)' started by Chriswhaaaat, Oct 5, 2024.

  1. Oct 6, 2024 at 8:52 PM
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    Cab is fine. PPF film will help but won’t protect 100%. I’d go to the top of the fender flairs. I was going to do it but the sliders were the fix for mine.
     
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  2. Oct 6, 2024 at 9:21 PM
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    I’m seeing the chips as high as the top of the wheel well (under side of the top of fender flare).

    Yeah, again, not here surprised I have rock chips. I drive ~30 000 miles/50 000 km per year minimum (and up to 80000km some years), lots of gravel, forestry roads, and even mine sites. All my trucks have had flaps, running boards, and rock chips galore, but this is just the most ridiculous rate I’ve seen it happen at.
     
  3. Oct 6, 2024 at 9:25 PM
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    I think it’s a design issue. Wondering if there’s a kick out I can attach to my existing rock rail.. maybe there will be an after market product. I’m not about to remove these OEM rails.
     
  4. Oct 6, 2024 at 10:10 PM
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    I agree with you OP and all of you. I don’t really drive on gravel roads at speed. I do slow rock, dirt and lava trails off-roading. So I think that’s why I get away without the pebbles damaging my paint and ppf. So haven’t had any issues so far.
     
  5. Oct 6, 2024 at 10:16 PM
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    I’ll probably add more PPF and call it a day unless I see some serious damage notwithstanding.
     
  6. Oct 7, 2024 at 5:37 AM
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    You need some of those GR Hilux flares.
    [​IMG]

    They aren't going to fit, and they might not solve the issue. What about Goat Armor or something like that?
     
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  7. Oct 7, 2024 at 4:53 PM
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    Oct 7 Update:

    Spoke to my dealer and the sales manager was immediately responsive, acknowledged that (as others have reported) a similar issue happens with Tundras in some cases, and totally understood the point I was making. He spoke to their service manager and they will be starting a paint warranty claim for me. I’m going to try and get the flares included in that (even though it’s not a painted surface). I emailed photos and have to take the truck in for a ‘formal’ assessment. He was already talking about body shop stuff. I’ll try to get it lined up such that it gets completed right before I put new rails and PPF on (if they do proceed). Will keep folks updated.

    Chris
     
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  8. Oct 7, 2024 at 5:30 PM
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    You have a very hard decision to make....
    factory paint will out last a repaint...
    Thats where toyota doesnt shine, their paint quality...
    Pretty sure they all source paint from the same supplier,
    Toyota may be just stingy with their paint & process may suck compared to lets say ford or other manf's...
    Im not just saying that due to my unfortunate situation, their paint just doesnt hold-up long term, it fades, stripes, oxidizes, delaminates, etc...
    In the sun...
     
  9. Oct 7, 2024 at 6:41 PM
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    Dealers in Texas would laugh in your face. I hate them. Glad they are helping you.

    I’m trying to get Suntek ultra defense installed in that area. Should be good to go. Will report back.
     
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    I did a DIY PPF job on the flares. It's a C+ level of quality if I'm grading myself. But the thing that makes the biggest difference was the absurdly large ARK mudflaps. Drove on a bunch of gravel the last week and not even a mark on the PPF itself. I think the best combination of protection from those rock chips would be larger mud flaps, conservative tire offset (or stay OEM) and rock sliders with a panel between the tubes. That will minimize the rock chips.
     
  11. Oct 7, 2024 at 6:44 PM
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    I need larger flaps. I’m going to run 285/70/18s and it will make it worse.
     
  12. Oct 7, 2024 at 6:51 PM
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    Which ones from ARK? The trixpoly ones? Those are huge. I like the ones they have that just pop out on the side.
     
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  14. Oct 7, 2024 at 9:29 PM
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    I have to say my truck’s paint is immaculate, and i certainly do not have the issues you are reporting. I dont have a chip anywhere else. I’m very sorry your paint is in such tough shape.

    You’re right that repaint is generally not the same as factory paint. However, you make the point that Toyota’s paint is shit… on one hand wouldn’t you say… maybe a repaint is better? (Depends who does it).
    I’m not advocating for a repaint, but I’m interested in what they come up with. Maybe I can get them to do something else…

    But also, this isn’t a paint issue, it’s a geometry/bodyline/rock issue. If it was a paint issue, my flares would be fine. I’m thinking this is more so a long box trailhunter issue, but may also affect the 5 foot pros, and to a lesser extent other trucks.
     
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    While I was in my situation, I was running through the scenarios in my mind, along with talking to my network of x-coworkers in the bodyshop industry also.
    I get you want it fixed as I would too...
    End of the day, only choice you really have is allowing them to repaint...
    Its great that theyre stepping-up & it is what it is, they could have said self inflicted...
    Talking to my toyota store service manager who is a phenomenal guy, smarter than any of his techs, was a toyota tech for years before his body started falling apart & had to become a manager....
    I asked him the qyestion when we were thinking toyota was going to want to repaint my truck...
    They have their own bodyshop within the dealer, thats who would have been doing the painted.
    This manager said factory crap paint would always be better than a repaint.

    My ford manager who spent majority of his career as my bodyshop manager, along with the senior service writer for the bodyshop, said the same thing....
    Ive also considered what you said, maybe a repaint would be better than factory....

    It really doesnt matter, youre only choice is to have them repaint & hope for the best...
    I know at my toyota dealer, when they repaint the previous gen white paint peelers, they offer lifetime..'
    Maybe you can get them to document something in writing & get some extended warranty on the repaired area, for some piece of mind.....


    No idea if that covers paint started to fade, oxidize, white / stripe, as paint starts breaking down...


    I said it before even before my unfortunate situation, toyota lacks in the paint dept...
    I always see tacomas here in san diego where the hoods & the roofs are just beat, oxidized / striped, no clear left on a relatively never truck...
    Pisses me off!!!!
     
  17. Oct 8, 2024 at 8:09 AM
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    Can confirm. trucks got a bubble butt that sticks out and catches rocks. Did about 25 miles of gravel and washed off the mud to find these chips in the paint the plastic flares. IMG_1317.jpg

    All the straight body trucks like f150 ram and silverados don’t have this issue. My 1st gen taco 4x4 rear flares that pole out looked sandblasted after 200k miles. I think it’s par for the course.

    it’s not a problem with the truck necessarily, it’s a problem with my expectation of keeping a perfect finish on my first new vehicle purchase. The wide hips that give it an aggressive stance have a downside and this is it. But go look at a jeeps fenders you’ll see they are all beat to shit cause they stick out perpendicular to the body by 4 inches and basically have open wheels flinging rocks directly at em.
     
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    Ok, I just did a deep clean on the truck. In retrospect, the PPF is actually ripped to shit, the fender flare ripped to shit, and there's holes all over the PPF from gravel. This was about 100 miles of gravel I drove on. This is on a 6' TRD OR with stock wheels and tires, but with the largest ark mud flaps.
     
  19. Oct 8, 2024 at 10:42 AM
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    GET MUD FLAPS!! BIGGG ONES! problem fixed.. who would have thunk that driving down gravel roads at any speed kicks up rocks! it doesnt matter the shape of the truck if its not the outside of the bed its the underside and inside that is getting blasted. look at any modern rally car/baja truck. mud flaps for days under on top and behind wheels. under the body everywhere. gravel is mean it will fk up your shit. its not toyotas fault.

    even if they paint your bed and put new flares on its going to happen again. unless you install stuff to stop the gravel or dont drive on gravel..
    i guess overlanding isnt for you... X overland doesnt show the dirty part of driving 100s of miles on gravel roads..
     
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    this is really helpful. Thank you. I had no idea that gravel was made of rocks. I thought it was all jelly. I'm glad there's a thread that you can find to spread your wisdom in.
     

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