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Is something wrong with my ABS?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by cxrpsecollector, Dec 24, 2024.

  1. Dec 24, 2024 at 1:01 PM
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    cxrpsecollector

    cxrpsecollector [OP] New Member

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    2022 TRDOR DCSB 6MT, purchased in September.

    Had an incident last night where the ABS nearly sent me into a 55mph crossroad. I don't know if it's just the characteristics of Toyota ABS or what, but it doesn't operate like any other vehicle I've ever driven.

    Let me preface this by saying that I've lived in Michigan my whole life and driven many different vehicles through the winter months. My last vehicle was a 2 door 2007 Wrangler that I drove for 7 years, running mud tires the entire time. I, stupidly, drove a whole winter on nearly bald BFG KM2s, so I'm no stranger to poor traction.:rofl:

    Anyway, prior to this situation, I tested the system with a few low-speed emergency stops in snow/slush/ice, and from the first time, the ABS felt very, very slow. It kicked in fast as expected, but the actuation itself feels like a solid half second on the brakes, and half second off. All other ABS that I've experienced has pulsated very fast, as that's kind of the point of it. This is what is making me question if it's actually working properly, or if it needs a trip into the dealer.

    So, driving home from work last night, I'm coming up to an intersection that I've approached nearly every night for the last 8 years. It's a very slight downhill, but I'm already going quite slow, probably 10-15mph, due to the steep uphill just before. I press the brakes gently and start slowing down when it apparently loses traction.

    At that point, the ABS kicks in and removes basically all of my stopping power. The truck actually picked up speed for a moment. The only reason I didn't get T-boned was because I was able to drive off the side of the road where there was enough traction that the ABS deactivated. I understand that the point of ABS is that it allows you to steer and stay in control; however, should there not also be some focus on, ya know, actually stopping the vehicle?

    From my perspective, this is an incredibly dangerous way for the truck to operate. I have searched through the forums and found many posts about the 2nd Gen guys having nearly identical issues, but I haven't seen much regarding the 3rd Gens. Is there something wrong that needs diagnosis or is this something that everyone just lives with?
     
  2. Dec 25, 2024 at 8:11 AM
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    soundman98

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    definitely not right. the ABS system on my '18 is pretty fast and responsive, in 2wd mode.

    but the first question is going to be the tires on it. the next question will be if you were in 4wd. tires will alter the grip, and 4wd does definitely change the responsiveness of the system.
     
  3. Dec 25, 2024 at 10:05 AM
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    Toy_Runner

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    3" OME lift, heavy coils f/r 3/16" steel skids Modified Coastal Offroad diy bumper 5spd swap ('98 donor)
    I have similar experiences with how the abs activates in my 6mt offroad. All of my prior vehicles, I've been able to disable the abs system by pulling the fuse, or wiring in the abs fuse on a relay so I can disable it when necessary. The offroad trims apparently have the abs system hardwired in, pulling the fuse disables the electric booster, meaning extremely limited braking power at all times. No bueno.

    My pedal pulses differently than yours does, if your 1/2 second on:eek:ff is right. Either way, it completely removes the ability to threshold brake on slick/snow covered surfaces.

    I'm currently on tall'n skinnies, 235/85-16's. The smaller contact patch seems to have helped a bit with winter traction, but we've only had a few icy days so far this winter for me to compare to.
     

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