Wescott Designs "lift" question...

What exactly are you trying to achieve? Just more lift?

 

@BTL Y-Wing Thank you very much for the detailed info, I appreciate it..

@Strictlytoyz basically…I put the Fox takeoffs on a little over a year ago and added an AAL at the time. Truck still has a good amount of rake and the goal was always to get 285’s on. I’m 95% pavement and forrest service roads with very mild actual off roading. From what I’ve read this “lift” is what I need to clear the 285’s in the front.

This will just kick the can down the road until I’m eventually swap everything out for some Kings. I pulled the trigger and will be getting it installed tomorrow and then a few days later the new wheels and tires. Looking forward to seeing how it all comes together.

 

I went back and forth between the Westcot and the Eibach springs. I ended up pulling the trigger on the Eibach. Simpler install and no need for a top spacer. Both have had positive reviews so probably can’t go wrong either way. For the rear it seems it’s and AAL or a 1” block. I’m going with the 1” block as I don’t want to stiffen up the rear at all. I’m currently running 285’s on a stock TRD Pro. I can get away with it as the TRD Pro wheels are offset a bit more than stock. With the Eibach springs and 1” block I. The rear, I should be golden. Waiting for the weather to warm up a bit before getting it all installed.

 

To keep it simple, lifting a toyota ifs does not create room for bigger tires. The biggest you can fit with no modifications is a 255/85/16 or a 255/80/17 which is a true 33" tire. Anything more and get ready to cut. The only tire clearance gained with an ifs lift is at ride height. Once you start cycling the suspension you'll rub. I reccomend watching the videos in this playlist

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1k07Og-0sYW5XSPx_g_yJsdpBXKh1w-2&feature=shared

 

You can fit 285s with different wheels that have the proper offset. You also don’t need to cut. A heat gun and pushing some plastic out of the way can do the trick as well. But you are right, if you’re rubbing with stock height, you’ll rub with a lift when stuffed.

 

Let me rephrase, 255/85/16 and 255/80/17 is the largest you can go without modifications

 

Ended up pulling the trigger on the Wescott lift. Added some Method 703's with -12 offset and some 285 Falken Wildpeak ATW4's. LOVE how it looks now. Just got it aligned today. I have very minimal rub, on the cab mount mostly. I will probably just leave it be for now though.

 

I'm currently running 285/70/17 with +4 offset and I have modified it by removing the mudguards, repositioning the wheel liner (front) and cutting out some of the interior part of the fender flare. These are technically modifications but they are also free to do. Another thing that can be done is increase your caster angle from the factory 2.4 degrees to 3.25 to 4 degrees via the lower control arm (the max adjustment essentially results in the wheel moving 1/2" forward). This will of course effect how the truck turns, but I wouldn't say its all that extreme. The ideal setup w/o lift to get 285/70/17's to fit on stock suspension, would be a +12 offset, 3.5 degree caster (via lower control arm adjustment).

Aesthetically, I think a 3" lift with a 33's is too much (of a lift) and really need to go near a 35 to fill out the wheel well appropriately, which will require metal modifications/regear unless you want to buy a 20k portal lol

 

@MandoTaco203 set up looks awesome.

Im jumping on this a bit late but looking at doing the wescott kit as well. The mechanic I went to to get it quoted said i just needed the front only kit. I have a 2022 TRD Pro. In reading the threads i keep seeing that i need something in the rear as well for 33's but the mechanic i use and wescott customer service said i wouldn't. I want to keep the stock fox suspension and is why im thinking of going this route. I had the Toytech Boss Alumi 3" on my 2020 Offroad with 285/75/16's and loved it but dont really have $3-4k at the moment. I saw this chick Chloe Kuo on youtube who seems to know her stuff putting the wescott kit on a TRD Pro and she also said there's no need to add anything in the rear (see link). Thoughts? Help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqgIMEb705I&t=304s

 

I mean typically if you add lift to the front, you need to do something to the rear to at least level it. However, our trucks come with some rake from the factory so you have some room to work with. Maybe just do the fronts for now and see how you like the look. Adding a couple 1” blocks to the rear won’t be hard to do later if it looks like it’s squatting.

I did want to mention something posted earlier. Someone mentioned something about the TRD Pro Fox internal bypass zones and how adding more preload to them will cause issues. I posted in another thread that this will not be an issue. One of the shock rebuild YouTube channels showed the bypass zone and a 1.5” preload doesn’t get you into a different zone. So there should be no concern about how the suspension design will be affected with either the Westcot or Eibach kits.

One final plug, I prefer extended springs over pre-load spacers (Westcot). Both are fine though. I’m approaching a year after doing my Eibach install and the ride continues to be close to, if not better, than stock. Zero issues here.

 

@poopshute awesome thanks for the reply. I was a bit concerned about the internal bypass zones from that post. Thats what ill do then is put in the front first and go from there. I dont mind if it stiffens up a tad bit. Compared to my 2020 offroad that had the toytech suspension, my Pro is a lot more wobbly when braking or turning.

 

@TRD Pro Slimer Take a look at this post I made on the Eibach thread. I address the concern about bypass zones. The video I'm referring to is in this post as well: 2236

Best of luck with your setup and I don't think you'll get a ton of squat with just the fronts being lifted 1-1.5". You might like the look but if you don't, easy to figure out the rear afterwards.